Hi Greeners, Thank you so much for all the info. I'll check the classes and depending on how much toll commute takes, we might meet one Saturday. As for colds and no medicine: elderberry syrup! You could get Sambucol, but I'm not keen on additives in it (only 1 though) and make my own. 1 cup dry elderberries (I found that NYR sell them, or buy on-line) 3 cups water bring to the boil and simmer for 30min. strain through sieve or cheese cloth cool down a bit and add 1/2 to 1 cup honey (raw if you want extra benefit) take 2 tbs a day (you can dilute in a glass of water or 1 spoon hourly when ill. It'll keep in the fridge for upto 3 months. You can also try onion and garlic (stinks to high heaven, but helps). chop 1 large onion and and 2-6 cloves of garlic add 4 tbs of hot water and sugar to cover leave to macerate for 3-4 days at room temperature. once the thick, oily syrup is formed you can add some liquid honey Take 1 spoonfull 2-3 times a day (cauation, it does taste dicgusting. No need to refrigerate as you should use it up before it goes off.