Cuthbert Dibble

would echo most of the comments here about variations within the SE15 postcode - roads such as Oglander, Ondine, Adys, Maxted, Muschamp, Marsden etc could all in my view be described as being in East Dulwich, except for the fact they have se15 postcodes which means that technically they aren't. Not sure what your budget is but there are flats to rent/for sale on Muschamp at the moment which is a fab road....

you can see what the wind's going to be doing on this website - http://www.xcweather.co.uk/. Many amateur pilots use it. Just drag the arrow over Heathrow - as you can see we've got a few more peaceful days to come....

I know I've mentioned this before but just to clarify... Planes land into the wind (so they don't land too fast basically). 70% of the time approx, the wind at Heathrow is westerly, which means that to land into it the planes have to fly over London, often East Dulwich.... But if it's easterly (as it is right now, and will be until Thurdsay at least according to the forecast) they land from the west, into the wind, ie over Reading, Windsor etc..... They take off towards us, but usually fly off in a different direction before flying over South East London. So that's why it's quiet right now - enjoy while it lasts!

well - we can all look forward to a week of quiet - easterly winds forecast Sunday til Thursday (at least) = no Heathrow bound planes over our lovely town. (Although there'll probably be a few heading for City Airport instead) enjoy the uninterupted sleep everybody!

I reckon Frisco and macroban are in fact the same (slightly odd) person.

Best way to stop foxes getting in your garden? Wee round the borders. They hate the smell. And, hey, it's fun!

I have to say I find it odd when some people who live in SE22 imply that the Bellenden Road area/any place with a SE15 postcode is in a far off, scarey area called "Peckham" which you would be well advised to stay clear of (as has happened in another thread in particular). Were you to walk out of East Dulwich station and head towards Goose Green - few would deny that you were in fact very much in, as the name of the station implies, East Dulwich. If however, whilst passing the end of Oglander or Ondine Road you happened to plant one of your feet about 2 feet to the left (maybe to avoid an errant dog turd) that foot would be in Peckham - as the SE15 postcode boundary ends there. Gangs of feral youths would no doubt appear and attack that foot with massive knives and guns - cos that's what happens in Peckham isn't it? The fact is the "Peckham residents" who live on these, and other roads (Marsden, Muschamp, Adys etc) live about a five minute walk away from the most interesting, lively end of Lordship Lane. Wheras many East Dulwich residents "proper" who live, say, further towards Forest Hill may have an SE22 postcode, but probably have to get a bus/drive/walk about a mile in order to sample the delights of the East Dulwich Deli, EDT and, er, Foxtons. To conclude then... - Although I know the term "East Dulwich borders" reeks of estate agents speak, it probably is an accurate description of this part of SE15 right up to and (controversial I know) including Bellenden Road. - It's really nice.

re Snorky's use of Foxtons as somewhere for the snorklets to run around in (top idea by the way) - could we organise some kind of flash-mob-Foxtons type thing, whereby Forum members bring themselves, their kiddies and pets along to the branch at an alloted time - and all gather to watch Sky News on their big screen, whilst the children play on the pretty coloured chairs (or visa versa). I think it would be really funny - we might even make it onto BBC London News with Rizla Teeth.

Avoid using estate agents' in-house mortgage brokers, or any they recommend. You'll never get the best deal as they rarely, if ever offer fully independent advice - and you may well have to pay a fee! A complete, unnecessary waste of money. If they imply that you're more likely to get the property if you use their broker then report the Agent to the National Association of Estate Agents. It's illegal - and seems to happen quite regularly. London and Country Mortgages are widely recognised by MoneySavingExpert.Com and numerous others as the best, impartial, fee-free mortgage brokers. I've used them twice and they are excellent.

for anyone bothered by these things - we've got some lovely easterly winds settled in for the next few days - so the weather might be pants - but hey, no (heathrow) planes over ED til Thursday probably. Hurrah!

Easterley winds you see.....

The dishcloth sellers are a pain and I agree it's best to politely and firmly tell them to go away. I suspect if you do buy something there's a chance that word will go around that they struck lucky, and they'll come back in due course. For Jehova's Witness' and religious cold callers - try this. On opening the door, they will start spouting their usual guff about joining the family of God, 144000 places in heaven, blahdy blah. Say nothing. Simply stare at them. They will probably look somewhat confused as this reponse isn't in the script. They may ask you another question, babble on a bit more about how your quality of life could be improved etc etc. Remain silent. Continue to stare at them intently with a blank expression on your face. Carry this on for as long as necessary - Eventually they'll make some kind of concluding comment, say goodbye and head off down the path, possibly trying to hand you a leaflet as they do so. Do not take it. Continue staring at them in silence. And then (making sure you've put the front door on latch or you have keys with you) - FOLLOW THEM. In silence. Staring at them, as you do so. Down the road if necessary. Keep looking at them right in the eyes. It'll freak 'em out and they'll never come back.

Geekery alert - hacan.org.uk has some good info on this.... There are a number of variables but, if you're under the Heathrow flightpath (as opposed to City) - you can at least know in advance whether the early morning planes will be waking you up - by watching the weather forecast the night before. If the wind arrows are pointing east (ie a westerly wind - something which happens around 70% of the time on average) then I'm afraid you should get the earplugs on standby. The planes will land into that wind, probably over East Dulwich. Several come in from the Far East from around 5-6am. In the morning Heathrow uses both runways (we're under the approach for the southern runway I believe) HOWEVER - if its easterly winds forecast (which often happens if it's clear weather blowing in from the continent - ie arrows pointing west) then - yipee! - stand by to enjoy your lie in uninterupted. The planes will approach from the west instead (Windsor etc - why on earth did they build the castle so near the airport??) This happens around 30% of the time. So sometimes during a period of sustained easterly winds there may be no Heathrow planes flying over our lovely town at all (this happened last summer for about a week I recall) Now all you have to do is to get your neighbour to switch off their sodding car alarm.

Given the broad range of moans displayed on this forum, size, architectural style, the horror that children will be allowed to play sport on Peckham Rye, etc etc I have a sneaking suspicion that when the plans are eventually resubmitted the now familiar chorus of disapproval will swell once more.... I do hope I'm pleasantly surprised....

congratulations everyone - I hope you are all really pleased with yourselves, meanwhile hundreds of local parents and children now face at least a year's further delay before this local school will be built. This having campaigned for years already. Time to crack open the champers I'd say. At this rate it might open in time for my grandchildren....