mr.chicken

Spartacus Wrote: > > If only in this neck of the borough there were > different forms of public transport. It's difficult with all the cars on the road. > Reducing car > journeys without providing a better public > transport service is part of the problem and for a > large number of people walking or cycling isn't > the correct answer as they aren't practical for > them. Cycling is currently impractical for the majority of people. I'm a confident cyclist and used to be pretty keen but I don't like the london murder roads. With removal of the majority of cars on many routes it becomes practical again. There are a very large number of people for which walking and cycling is practical. People like driving because it's faster and easier, so they'll drive even if alternatives are fine. Making the car option harder will push people to walk rather than sit in traffic forever. If you really need to drive, the option will remain.

Serena2012 Wrote: > > Whether it impacts your experience as a driver > positively or negatively is not the point. The > issue is that what is masquerading as a green > initiative is actually causing tailbacks. Idling > traffic = double the air pollution caused by > free-flowing traffic. There's no masquerade. Anything to reduce the amount of traffic will always start by causing tailbacks until people figure out they can actually take a different form of transport. People's behaviour always lags the changes, so if we have a requirement that we could never cause short term problems then it would be impossible to improve anything. Car use always grows to fill the available capacity, but that works both ways and it will shrink to fill the available capacity too. But that takes time and without shrinking the capacity, it will never happen.

I live near the Calton Ave. Junction and as a pedestrian I've not had anyone try to run me over since it closed, whereas before having cars drive right at me fast with a green man up was a regular occurrence. Saying this is all 100% against cars is not useful. Cars have had a free run of the place for yonks. The problem is the roads are now full of cars and we can't add more capacity, because there is nowhere to add it. The only way of making thins better for cars is to make it better for everyone else so people use other forms of transport. That will free up the roads for people who really need cars. Just look at the statistics for the unending growth of car use round here. Unless the council tries to curb car use, then it will grow and grown until the roads are totally clogged anyway in 5 years time, and we won't have any improvements for other road users.