mr.chicken

I love the anti-LTN "logic". Too many cars on the south circular? I know let's have more cars!

I love the cognitive dissonance on this subject. The council is wildly incompetent at everything but especially LTNs, with two notable exceptions: 1. Running conspiracies 2. Implementing LTNs ironically: you see when the council puts one in they do a perfect job so if it doesn't work perfectly then no fixes could possibly help and the only path is removal. It can't be both, except here it apparently can!

Right o the torygraph: the mouthpiece of a government which has decided anti environmentalism is its cause celebre in its latest manufactured culture war. Funny how so many worldly people who just claim to care so much about poorer Londoners can do little but quote right wing gutter press 🤔

@Rockets you may have noticed that the central government had banned ICE car sales from 2030. That's a far larger thing than the council can do plus this way they don't have to put up with the inevitable gales of whining and pointless judicial reviews. So in other words, the council are doing their bit, the government is doing their bit and it's all moving forwards. I know you think the council are at a superhuman level of competence. Also you are factually incorrect about congestion because it has increased in the control areas well away from where LTNs are installed. The boundary roads have seen less increase than places far from the LTNs, so it looks very much like LTNs have had a positive effect. PS your "no u" is somewhat below your usual level trolling. Can't you do better?

This is one of the more hilarious threads. Perhaps if you'd been less busy trying to hound any pro LTN people off forum and more time listening this would not come as a shock. Pollution is one of the many problems with cars. Changing to electric cars will fix a good fraction of the car pollution problem but none of the others. For the cars that remain, electric is the way to go. But there are still too many cars. You know those buses you pretend to care about getting stuck in traffic? Electric cars won't fix that, it will just make the stationary traffic less filthy. Unsticking the buses means fewer cars, electric or otherwise.

Well the latest round of speculation makers about as much sense as the other histrionic conspiracy nonsense about the council and transport, so sure, why not?

What's all this got to do with the CPZ, @Rockets ?

In as much as it fits the cars are good everything is bad, no CPZ mantra it's relevant. Otherwise not so much.

CO2 is what causes global warming, which will be bad but it's otherwise pretty harmless to humans in these concentrations. NOx and particulates aren't globally important in the same way but are very harmful to humans at the concentrations found in London. I don't understand what point you are trying to make @CPR Dave, NO is a similar density to air, NO2 is a similar density to CO2. Particulates are denser still.

He's been doing it for years. I'm glad the taller house they built next door didn't ruin the garden. It's always such a delight.

@legalalien, are they? Specifically to which bit of legislation do you refer?

The CPZ is not purely about problem parking areas so the argument that some areas don't "need" is is specious. It's also to disincentivise driving, because people are dying in droves due to pollution and the roads are so clogged that it's hard to have great bus links. The council most certainly has a mandate on public transport and the environment and the CPZ checks both boxes.

Really because Rockets is saying things like: That's not evidence or critique. This is all about casting shade on the researchers by questioning motivations etc.

Not a hundred percent sue what a divvy is, it sounds good! Either way storage for cars is free unlike say a skip or bike. Plus when the bunch of car journeys and cars decreases the space can be repurposed. MinI parks, green space etc. That won't come that soon but better late than never.

@exdulwicher Don't you see it's not true that no one else gets 10 square meters of free space other than most drivers. It's just that the vast majority drivers get a free 10 square meters of space to park 24/7 (unlike anyone else who wants to occupy that space). 🤣