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  1. @ EP Please, try not to be such a liberal queef and explain how what Doepfner wrote is "the greatest concentration of misinformation a truth twisting ever committed to prose" without resorting to name-calling, which, as I'm sure you already know, is the first sign of a liberal losing the argument.
  2. The writer Henryk Broder recently issued a withering indictment: ?Europe, your family name is Appeasement.? That phrase resonates because it is so terribly true. Appeasement cost millions of Jews and non-Jews their lives as England and France, allies at the time, negotiated and hesitated too long before they realized that Hitler needed to be fought and defeated, because he could not be bound by toothless agreements. Later, appeasement legitimized and stabilized Communism in the Soviet Union, then East Germany, then throughout the rest of Eastern Europe, where for decades inhuman, repressive, and murderous governments were glorified. Appeasement similarly crippled Europe when genocide ran rampant in Bosnia and Kosovo. Indeed, even though we had absolute proof of ongoing mass murder there, we Europeans debated and debated, and then debated still more. We were still debating when finally the Americans had to come from halfway around the world, into Europe yet again, to do our work for us. Europe still hasn?t learned its lesson. Rather than protecting democracy in the Middle East, European appeasement, camouflaged behind the fuzzy word ?equidistance,? often seems to countenance suicide bombings in Israel by fundamentalist Palestinians. Similarly, it generates a mentality that allows Europe to ignore the nearly 500,000 victims of Saddam?s torture and murder machinery and, motivated by the self-righteousness of the peace movement, to harangue George W. Bush as a warmonger. This hypocrisy continues even as it is discovered that some of the loudest critics of American action in Iraq made illicit billions ? indeed, tens of billions ? of dollars in the corrupt UN ?oil-for-food? program. Today we are faced with a particularly grotesque form of appeasement. How is Germany reacting to the escalating violence by Islamic fundamentalists in Holland, Britain, and elsewhere in Europe? By suggesting ? wait for it ? that the proper response to such barbarism is to initiate a ?Muslim holiday? in Germany. I wish I were joking, but I am not. A substantial fraction of Germany?s government ? and, if polls are to be believed, the German people ? actually believe that creating an official state Muslim holiday will somehow spare us from the wrath of fanatical Islamists. One cannot help but recall Britain?s Neville Chamberlain on his return from Munich, waving that laughable treaty signed by Adolf Hitler, and declaring the advent of ?peace in our time.? What atrocity must occur before the European public and its political leadership understands what is really happening in the world? There is a sort of crusade underway ? an especially perfidious campaign consisting of systematic attacks by Islamists, focused on civilians, that is directed against our free, open Western societies, and that is intent upon their utter destruction. We find ourselves faced with a conflict that will most likely last longer than any of the great military clashes of the last century ? a conflict conducted by an enemy that cannot be tamed by ?tolerance? and ?accommodation? because that enemy is actually spurred on by such gestures. Such responses have proven to be signs of weakness, and they will always be regarded as such by the Islamists. Only two recent American presidents have had the courage needed to shun appeasement: Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. America?s critics may quibble over the details, but in our hearts we Europeans know the truth, because we saw it first hand. Reagan ended the Cold War, freeing half of Europe from nearly 50 years of terror and slavery. And President Bush, acting out of moral conviction and supported only by the social democrat Tony Blair, recognized the danger in today?s Islamist war against democracy. In the meantime, Europe sits back in the multi-cultural corner with its usual blithe self-confidence. Instead of defending liberal values and acting as an attractive center of power on the same playing field as the true great powers, America and China, it does nothing. On the contrary, we Europeans present ourselves, in contrast to the supposedly ?arrogant Americans,? as world champions of ?tolerance,? which even Germany?s interior minister, Otto Schily, justifiably criticizes. Where does this self-satisfied reaction come from? Does it arise because we are so moral? I fear that it stems from the fact that we Europeans are so materialistic, so devoid of a moral compass. For his policy of confronting Islamic terrorism head on, Bush risks the fall of the dollar, huge amounts of additional national debt, and a massive and persistent burden on the American economy. But he does this because, unlike most of Europe, he realizes that what is at stake is literally everything that really matters to free people. While we criticize the ?capitalistic robber barons? of America because they seem too sure of their priorities, we timidly defend our welfare states. ?Stay out of it! It could get expensive,? we cry. So, instead of acting to defend our civilization, we prefer to discuss reducing our 35-hour workweek or improving our dental coverage, or extending our four weeks of annual paid vacation. Or perhaps we listen to television pastors preach about the need to ?reach out to terrorists,? to understand and forgive. These days, Europe reminds me of an old woman who, with shaking hands, frantically hides her last pieces of jewelry when she notices a robber breaking into a neighbor?s house. Appeasement? That is just the start of it. Europe, thy name is Cowardice. Source: Matius Doepfner - http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/europe--thy-name-is-cowardice
  3. @ CM Thanks for your input/support. Much appreciated.
  4. Can you link to these BBC, Mail and Telegraph articles covering Jasper's offensive tweet? I've looked, but can't find any?
  5. Prominent British black activist. Media darling of the BBC.
  6. Tweeted by Lee Jasper, 9th of January: "Lesson no 1. Black People in the UK Cannot Be Racist. Racism requires power plus prejudice. We do not have the power to discriminate en masse." Wrong. Black people, or anyone, for that matter, possess the capacity to be racist. Racism isn't exclusive to white people. Sorry, but I can't upload a screenshot of the tweet in question (unless someone can advise me on how to do so). In any case, this offensive and utterly dishonest comment still stands on his twitter feed. Why didn't the media cover this? He even advertised a talk on the subject, entry fee was ?10. Surely as a campaigner against racism he'd be familiar with the standard definition of racism?
  7. Er, so? Opium was a widely-sought commodity in the 19th century. Not forgetting that its trade was perfectly legal, and any profit made from it. Should we seek indemnity from the Wright brothers' descendents, seeing as their ancestors' creation has lead to so much pollution?
  8. Past generations were also complicit in killing and displacing numerous indigenous tribes in Canada, Australia and South Africa. They plundered their territories, too. Does that mean these countries are eligible for aid as well? Accepting responsibility for the sins of our fathers across the board would almost certainly prove to be a costly mistake.
  9. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9480279/India-is-heading-for-Mars-it-doesnt-need-British-aid-money-to-pay-the-bills.html#
  10. @ StraferJack The Telegraph. Not exactly a fringe outlet.
  11. So Britain should be financially responsible for all of its former territories? In that case, Australia and Canada are due a massive payout.
  12. @ Jeremy I focused on their developing space program because it so clearly illustrates that they should no longer be seeking financial and/or material aid from the UK. It's analogous with the Dept. of Work & Pensions withdrawing benefits from claimants who are proven to be no longer reliant on benefits.
  13. @ Undisputedtruth There are indeed high levels of of poverty that need addressing... by the Indian government. If they've got the cash and the wherewithal to fund a space program, they've clearly got enough to begin addressing issues like poverty without assistance from the UK. They sought independence from Britain, so they should carry the responsibility that entails.
  14. @ Michael Palaeologus You'd support needless expenditure simply to spite a newspaper? Breathtaking. Regardless, why should the British taxpayer fund groups focused on raising awareness for sexual health in India? Surely such responsibilities should rest on the shoulders of the Indian government/taxpayer? @ Chippy Minton I don't read the Express.
  15. ... when it's developing a space program?
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