Louisa

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Isn't this a case of Sunday Times just pointing > out places that are vaguely trendy at the moment? > (See also Bristol) > > It will fall off the list soon enough. Since when was Frome in Somerset vaguely trendy? Louisa.

It seems a real shame that whenever something horrible happens as a result of mindless radicalised ignorance, so called 'educated' people have to come out and spout a lot of inflammatory nonsense, and more worryingly they're given a platform for doing so. These horrible events are happening daily around the world, but often we only hear about them when news agencies see fit to report on them. Being so close to home makes you realise how such events are never far away, and the only way to deal with them effectively is to not give any terrorist or other vile scum who promote them any sort of platform. Louisa.

As above. Our police and paramedics do a great job and a big thankyou to them for working tirelessly to keep us all safe. Also the MP who went above the call of duty to help that brave officer. Louisa.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > OK.. Who here would eat Escargot without the Hot > Garlic Butter.. ?? > > Foxy :) Exactly foxy ha ha But a duck can be eaten without sauce fanfayre. Point proven! Louisa.

JoeLeg Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Tbf JoeLeg the other French dishes you refer, > > especially Duck Confit, are justifiably more > > expensive because of the ingredients being > used. > > Can't compare them to snails. > > > > The Indian dishes are not overpriced for the > most > > part, so that isn't really a valid comparison > in > > this context. > > > > Louisa > > No, it's a completely valid comparison. > > You're saying that they use the French term for > snails to increase sales. > I'm pointing out that they use French terms all > over the menu. > And that other restaurants do the same with their > own ethnic food. > > It's got nothing to do with price. It's how they > write the menu. > > Plus can you quote me wholesale prices for snails? > Do you know how much the dish costs before a > 65-70% GP has been applied? If you think it's ok > to use a French term for duck slow cooked in duck > fat, because it's more expensive, can you tell me > the wholesale cost and GP margin on confit de > canard, and show me why that's justified to use > the French name but snails should not? It is justified because duck is an expensive ingredient. It costs a lot more to buy and prepare than a handful of snails. As for the French or ethnic names used, they're totally subjective and only relevant when it comes to specific dishes within regional cuisines of different nations. Snails are popular in many parts of the world NOT JUST FRANCE! Jalfrezi, Korma and Vindaloo are exotic yes, but they don't raise a cash strapped eyebrow in a restaurant scenario because they're NOT overpriced for the most part. SOME French eateries use the catchy and delicious sounding names 'escargot' to make a totally boring un-delicious food article, become something exceptional just by adding garlic butter. They wouldn't dream of calling them 'snails in garlic butter', because as I said, not many people would find that name appetising enough to want to buy them. Louisa.

Tbf JoeLeg the other French dishes you refer, especially Duck Confit, are justifiably more expensive because of the ingredients being used. Can't compare them to snails. The Indian dishes are not overpriced for the most part, so that isn't really a valid comparison in this context. Louisa

The use of the name 'escargot', French or not, does make them sound more appetising/exotic to a native English speaker. Possibly also justifies the high end prices for them. If they just put 'snails in garlic butter' on the menu, I would argue that most folk wouldn't go near them. Louisa.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > They're basically slugs that happen to have a > > home. > > > > Louisa. > > Yes.. and who would eat Slugs..? Even with Hot > Garlic Butter.. :) > > Most restaurants if not all do not call them > 'Snails' They refer to them as Escargot" so it > sounds posh. > > .. and justifies places charging 2 quid each for > them. ( not quoting La B.B price) > > Foxy How do they source these snails I wonder? Are they specifically bred for consumption? It would be terrible to think of someone wandering around their back garden hunting the poor things down to boil up for food. ?2 per snail? Who in their right mind would pay that to eat a slug with a home. Louisa.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's not John Barnett anymore .. > > Foxy That's disappointing. Who is it now foxy? Louisa.

Pheasants don't ordinarily congregate in urban locations, so I fear the poor things have been dumped here by someone. The best thing you can do is contact the RSPCA, who hopefully will collect them and put them back into a more suitable place. Louisa.

They're basically slugs that happen to have a home. Louisa.

Not seen the new signage will pop along later to look later. It's been a shoe shop since before my time. Louisa.

DulwichFox Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > If the Half Moon can get away with ?5.00 - ?5.50 > .. > > ... How much will the Dog be charging when it > opens.. ?? > > ?7.50 ?? You can get a hot dog for that.. :) > > Foxy Imagine a 5.50 pint accompanied by a 7.50 hotdog - Now that really is the final straw ;-) Louisa.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > The Lunar ale was ?5.50 a pint > > Louisa! You were drinking imported US "craft" > beer, so probably the most expensive option there. > You wannabe hipster! > > I'm sure London Pride or ESB would be quite a bit > cheaper. I only had half and wasn't keen, old man loved it. Thought it was a bit steep. Being called a hipster at my age is probably a compliment- I'm happy with that! Presumably then based on the assumption that's the most expensive drink, other beers would be considerably cheaper. That puts the place on a par with most other boozers locally then. Louisa.

???? Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I was sure you were on this list Louisa...doesn't > the new management know? > > http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2016/04/12/south-london-p > ub-barred-list-very-funny/ I was in disguise last night. Looked like an innocent member of the public enjoying alcoholic beverages in my 'look at me' East Dulwich visitor dress. Even managed some face paint. They didn't suspect a thing ;-) Louisa.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Quite often go in Fullers pubs in the City... ale > tends to be around the ?4 mark, surely Herne Hill > can't be more expensive? Some of the keg beers > tend to be expensive though. The Lunar ale was ?5.50 a pint, only had the one round. More of a nose than a proper drink. Not sure about the price of other tap beers/lagers, but presumably around a similar sort of mark or maybe slightly less? Louisa.

Just read the Dulwich Diverter article about the Greek delicatessen. It sounds different, and good that the owners turned down a number of chains, including mobile phone shops, which would have ruined the Lane. Louisa.

I love whelks, but they can be eaten plain (full of flavour), or with vinegar and pepper on top. Snails need to be smothered in garlic butter to disguise the horrible taste. Louisa.

Jules-and-Boo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa wrote - the completely ignorant nature of > forcing others to be a part of your very personal > experience. > > Does that not cover a multitude of sins? The worst > being people arguing or eating greasy food. > > I would much prefer someone quietly putting on > their make up. It's the least offensive of many > things. I have to agree that eating greasy food, talking or arguing loudly is the most annoying thing I see in public places. I don't use public transport for personal hygiene reasons, and because I am enjoying walking lately (and only using the car as and when needed due to lack of spaces locally and my car spot being nicked every time I move it). If however, I were on public transport I would find all of the above offensive, and my point about cream application incorporates not just the smells of which some people above suggest aren't pungent, some certainly can be. It's about the potential dangers to health too. Also, has any research been done into whether these creams can be damaging to people with lung/breathing difficulties? Louisa.

The last time I tried snails was 20 years ago in Montpellier. It was the worst experience of my life, a poor mans prawn (at best). If they do a decent French Onion Soup I'll definitely be in though. They seem to be doing the right things so far. Louisa.

I think it depends what you go for rendel, but yes I reckon most of the premium stuff is well over a fiver. I noticed peroni on tap which I'm not a fan, and there were a few other options. The drinks mix looked classic Fullers to my untrained eye, with a few guest beers. As I say, top end of what id 'like' to pay, but I'd go back. Reckon the garden will be well used in summer, and a nice little front garden too. Louisa.

I visited last night with Mr L, he had a pint of lunar and I had a half of the stuff. We got there about 9. It was busy enough for all the tables to be taken, but not so busy that it felt uncomfortable. Most of the original features have been kept in the front bar and out back they've created a restaurant area and then through some separate doors to the toilet it opens out into a refurbished garden with another outside bar and some sort of food shack (closed), which is I presume used in summer. Drink prices top end of average (for people like us), friendly enough service and a good mixed crowd. I think it's been smartened up but with a decent nod to the past, maybe not to everyone's taste - especially a die hard regular back in the day (maybe). I'd go back, I like the way the food area is kept away back from where the drinking is done at the front. The bloke who I presume is manager seemed friendly enough too. Mostly positive then, but I don't know what it is. Pubs nowadays just don't feel the same to me. I reckon this will put the dog refurb to shame. Louisa.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jah Lush Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Kanella & Co. > > > Is this place actually open? It was open yesterday, but appeared closed when I came past earlier this afternoon. Louisa.

Looking at the list of other regional winners I wouldn't take that list too seriously. Louisa.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I appreciate your cynicism rendel, but just > > because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it's > not > > possible. The antisocial smells and aromas > coming > > from these products are such that it would be > wise > > to be cautious. Why not do it at home? > > > > Louisa. > > They don't smell at all, or if they do it's barely > noticeable. > > E45 isn't exactly Napalm. Seabag I direct you to the link provided above. This thread is for two things. Firstly to prove a point about that nonsensical argument some posters were having with me about the dangers of some medicated creams. I was told I was talking bollocks, and yet the above article proves the validity of my point back then. Let's see if any of those people are prepared to come back and reflect on those comments after reading the BBC News article. The second point is to raise awareness and a warning to people not to use these products in confined public spaces. Louisa.