Louisa

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Sue Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > Louisa Wrote: > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ----- > > > your argument > > > > makes no sense. You rarely tell us all when > > > you'll > > > > be eating pie and mash, yet you'll go out > of > > > your > > > > way to tell everyone you went to the > opening > > > night > > > > at meatliqour. > > > > > > > > > Sorry admin, but may I just briefly go off > > topic > > > to inform Louisa that I did not go to the > > opening > > > night at MeatLiquor, let alone "tell > everyone" > > > about it 😀 > > > > > > Sorry admin may I also briefly go off topic to > > remind Sue of a thread in which we discussed > > people sat in the window seats at said eatery > and > > the whole 'look at me' thing (which I don't > wish > > to go back into), and I'm sure you said you and > Mr > > Sue were invited to some special pre opening > event > > thing? If I am wrong then I apologise. Either > way, > > you went into great detail about meatliqour and > > yet we only recently discovered you visited a > pie > > and mash shop in Walthamstow :) > > > > Louisa. > > > You are wrong. > > We neither went nor were invited to any special > event at MeatLiquor, Nor did we go nor were we > invited to the opening. > > Maybe check the thread in question before posting > false information twice and going off topic > again. > > And why would I mention on here previously a place > in Walthamstow I went to years ago? It was only > relevant because of the raising of pie and mash on > this thread. > > Whereas when I posted about MeatLiquor, it had > just opened locally. > > FFS. > > I have only replied to your post because you are > persisting in posting ridiculous and wrong things > about me. > > I don't know whether you do this deliberately, but > please stop. If you are trying to wind me up - > congratulations, you are succeeding. Actually, I already said I apologise if I am wrong, I couldn't remember the specific details of said discussion. Here they are though on this page http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?20,1619535,page=6 I did remember you saying you had been there with your other half, hence why I was confused and I apologise unreservedly Sue for getting my facts wrong. I am doing nothing deliberately, and I'd rather not be accused of winding people up, I was actually trying to have a serious adult debate about restaurant diversity in East Dulwich and London in general. But once again, my points are lost through a sea of off-topic nonsense. Louisa.

Sue Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > your argument > > makes no sense. You rarely tell us all when > you'll > > be eating pie and mash, yet you'll go out of > your > > way to tell everyone you went to the opening > night > > at meatliqour. > > > Sorry admin, but may I just briefly go off topic > to inform Louisa that I did not go to the opening > night at MeatLiquor, let alone "tell everyone" > about it 😀 Sorry admin may I also briefly go off topic to remind Sue of a thread in which we discussed people sat in the window seats at said eatery and the whole 'look at me' thing (which I don't wish to go back into), and I'm sure you said you and Mr Sue were invited to some special pre opening event thing? If I am wrong then I apologise. Either way, you went into great detail about meatliqour and yet we only recently discovered you visited a pie and mash shop in Walthamstow :) Louisa.

Despite the reputation London unfairly holds as a unfriendly place, growing up in and around East Dulwich and Peckham, I've always been aware of a strongly held community spirit. Recent trends in house shares locally have to some degree dampened some of that, as the people aren't resident long enough to care for interaction with neighbours. But overall, I think we are incredibly friendly, far more so than some other rural localities on our doorsteps. Louisa.

Give me prosecco over champagne any day. Cheaper, tastier, and less pretentious. I welcome the arrival of prosecco, it makes cava look embarrassing, and it makes champagne look ordinary. It's something that anyone can enjoy too. Louisa.

Also, does it ever stop raining down there? Louisa.

Not all people in Cornwall and the South West are related, some are normal Londoners who retired there. I'm talking more about the natives, you know the ones who claim to be oh so friendly and neighbourly, and yet are the most two faced people on planet earth. They claim to have a dry sense of humour, I actually think they lack a sense of any sort of humour, years of isolation and misery in a deprived and remote place have seen to that. That's why most of the youngsters come up here to live! They need to escape! Louisa.

I'll think about it. Louisa.

Cannot believe people trying to justify antisocial behaviour it's just plain ignorance. I am 100% with rendel on this. Louisa.

Captain Kernow Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > dbboy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > "well cooked venison" needs to be on the rare > > side. > > > well cooked, as in cooked with finesse- only > people from Devon eat venison well done silly > buggers. No offence but from the people I've seen in Cornwall and Devon, inbreeding has a lot to answer for. Most of the types who move to London are so desperate to become accepted members of society they'll do anything to escape the dull, depressing lifestyle they've been brought up in. So I don't think Londoners need to take any advice about virtue signalling from bizarre country folk who move here to fill our city with disgusting smoke from poncy wannabe meat bought at an organic butchery to cremate on some overly expensive hardly used anti social BBQ they keep in their garden to show off with (a way of making said country folk feel slightly more accepted perhaps in their imaginary world of how they like London to be). Stop being antisocial. Stop using bbq's in confined spaces. If you really want one, find a field and rent it for a weekend in the middle of nowhere (somewhere like Cornwall perhaps?) where you can burn meat to your hearts content. Louisa.

Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > fruityloops Wrote: > > > > > Never been a fan of BBQ's either. Also, why does > a > > BBQ have to involve fossil fuel burning? You > can > > get gas and electric options! Don't understand > the > > fascination with antipodean style meat > > preparation. Steamed and slow roasted meat > retain > > far more flavour than being burnt and half > cooked > > on a coal burning heat pit. > > > > No trolling from me, just honesty as ever. > > > > Louisa. > > Charcoal isn't a fossil fuel, it's dry distilled > wood. As in not mined from a coal mine, but made > in a retort, in a woodland. Ok I wasn't aware of that. It's still being burnt in gardens and creating horrible amounts of smoke and is incredibly anti social. I also do not enjoy the taste of meat cooked out in the open. The BBQ taste overpowers everything else in my opinion, especially if it's charcoal. Louisa.

Is it moving to a new location? Louisa.

I agree, lets now allow the usual suspects to take this thread off topic. So Le Chardon, any thoughts? Louisa.

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I expect it does but your standards aren't very > high, as we know. > > Louisa Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > You people must have been looking at different > > pictures, that salad looked fresh and tasty to > me. > > > > > > Louisa. That's pure snobbery, and indeed why so many people like fox and myself make the points we do. Louisa.

With respect Sue, I don't think foxy is contradicting himself one bit. He's simply suggesting that you can eat food from wherever you like, but some people choose to be seen eating in certain places because they charge more, even though the food is probably of the same quality at a cheaper place. And to be fair, your argument makes no sense. You rarely tell us all when you'll be eating pie and mash, yet you'll go out of your way to tell everyone you went to MeatLiqour*. Shoot me down if you so wish, but there's a lot of double standards going on here. Louisa. *edited because I got my facts WRONG

More importantly why would you go for Pie n Mash in Walthamstow, when there's one in Peckham? Louisa.

You people must have been looking at different pictures, that salad looked fresh and tasty to me. Louisa.

Just because someone has a different opinion, they are automatically branded prejudiced. I could easily flip that argument the other way around, but oddly those above criticising wouldn't be able to recognise that evaluation of their own predujices. Funny that? Why do people assume it's a joke? Supporting existing good value local businesses isn't a joke, it's important for the survival of our high street. Or is it funny because people who you do t agree with are saying it? Therefore it makes it easy to criticise. Don't think anyone hates East Dulwich, just want a nice healthy mix of shops/restaurants for everyone's purse/wallet. Is that a crime? Louisa.

Unsavoury characters? What a horrible thing to say about people. How do you even know they came from that block? Louisa.

Indeed foxy. Hear, hear. They just don't see the snobbery they spout. I'm sick of even trying to justify my comments on this forum. People choose to cock a deafen whenever I try to make a valid point. Louisa.

DaveR Predictable response. Don't deal with the perfectly logical, just dress it up as illogical ramblings to make your point*. My whole point was, if people are going to pay that 8.75, it may only be for a period (depending on quality), and even then, who knows if that's enough to keep such a venture viable long term? Also, my main point, how about we have more price diversity rather than assuming everyone is prepared to pay top dollar for everything. Digging out my wine choice is funny, because if you believe you have to pay more to sit in the garden and get pissed, I can understand why you would assume 10 quid for a flan is good value. *whatever that is, lost on me Louisa.

The general assumption that Indian restaurants aren't healthy and serve up low quality meat and dish is just made up offensive rubbish. Some of the best meals I've had out have been in Indian restaurants and when you look at the prices they charge on average you'll know full well that such ingredients could never be obtained at wholesale price at such knock down bargain basement assumptions. It's just yet another underhand dig at local long standing businesses which are still going (much to the disarray and annoyance of some on here who would rather have overpriced posh nosh). Louisa.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I honestly, genuinely do not understand your point > Louisa. Yes there are plenty people who can't > afford a ?10 lunch, I'm well aware of that. There > are also people who can't afford to shop in your > precious Ayres. There are people who can't afford > kebabs, curries, and pints in the pub. There are > people who can't afford (in more ways than one) to > sit out in the garden drinking wine. > > Is there an actual crux to your argument, because > to me it just sounds like resentment towards any > sort of change. It's not as if it's replacing a > cheaper place. > > Oh and I do not "have it in" for any local Indian > restaurant, I like them but it's unhealthy food > which is an occasional treat. People who can't afford to shop in Ayres? And yet they can shop in the numerous expensive bakeries around here? Don't make me laugh Jeremy. And yes I do enjoy a bottle of 3 quid wine in the garden, is that a crime? Hardly a luxury. You know full well the crux of my argument and I'm disappointed you feel the need to even ask me. I'm simply suggesting that a flan with a salad for the best part of a tenner isn't my version of value for money, but as I've pointed out, it's also dependent on the ingredients used. Some may wish to spend THAT, I wouldn't personally. As for the Indian restaurants, I wasn't digging you out per se, I was simply suggesting that in general most posters on here seem to take a dim view of the surrounding Indian restaurant options, even though they're their int indepdents which have lasted far longer than any of the fad places which come and go constantly. Think we should be more appreciative of them. Louisa.

I don't understand why so many people on this forum have it in for our local Indian restaurants. They've served this community for decades, and we have such a lovely mixture of different places. It's sad that some people like to blanket condemn them purely for selfish reasons because they want some other arty farty expensive cuisine to take its place. I think the end of Le Chardon has more to do with the arrival of a better French option in Bonne Bouef, than it does anything else. Louisa.

Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I love curry too - especially a tandoori mixed > grill - but let's be honest about what it is. > Unhealthy food made with very poor quality meat. > It's not what I want to eat every day (well it > sort of is, but I don't). > > Surely it's good to have a bit of choice. A quiche > and salad makes for a good light(ish) lunch > option, and ?8.75 is not a ridiculous price if > it's freshly made. Jeremy it depends on the size and quality. If it's a huge salad with lots of different things made in a unique and loving way, then I'm sure some would justify the price. But not everyone can afford to spend a tenner on lunch, some people are happy with a meal deal from the nearest supermarket. Also, not all Indian restaurants use poor quality meat, and it's lazy to suggest they do. Louisa.

Out of interest Foxy is the cobra bottled or on tap? And how much for a pint? Also, as part of the above deal, do you have the option to choose which type of naan you'd like? Louisa.