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Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > West Peckham! tee hee Well, Hone was a little strange. The place name "East Dulwich" is a modern invention. Bottle of wine for anyone who can produce an authenticated reference that pre-dates 1811. NB: The Wikipedia entries are not authenticated. John K

William Hone writing in 1838: On a pane of glass, in the parlour window of the pleasant little road-side public-house called "The Plough" in Lordship Lane, leading from West Peckham to Sydenham, there is the following inscription :? March 16, 1810 Thomas Mount Jones dined here Eat six pounds of bacon, drank nineteen pots of beer. It is a question for discussion, whether, in the hereof this frail memorial, the love of distinction and desire for fame were not greater than his love of brutal gluttony.

Commonwealth War Graves Commission

Sue, I've put up a copy of the real thing in the shop window: The London County Council War Damage maps 117 and 127 that cover East Dulwich. I can only leave them up a couple of days as the sun will fade them. John K

There was at least one article about the Lordship Lane Woolworth's published in "The New Bond" (the Woolworth's staff magazine). Unfortunately I've temporarily mislaid the reference(s). These people should be able to help. John K

Ian, At a push the engine could be a Jenny Lind [Engraving of Jenny Lind here] but I don't think so. I'd like to know what you think when you've seen the photo. It's still wrong though as in 1887 the East Dulwich line had Stroudley, Billington, and Marsh tank engines. I thought the later 2-2-2s were tank engines. I'm looking for an expert to write the "railways" section of our next local history book. Have I found him? John K

An excellent selection of photographs. I didn't know that the tram tracks outside Dulwich Library were lifted as late as June 1953. Also "good" to see a photo of the great East Dulwich vandalism of 1958. As a matter of historical accuracy: the architect's view of (what is now) Dulwich Hospital has an impossible 2-2-2 steam engine on the railway tracks. If the LBSCR ever had such a locomotive it would have been scrapped in the 1850s. John K

This appears to be the source of the newspaper article. There may be a high incidence of twits from JAGS. Although JAGS describes itself as "on the Edge of Dulwich" it is actually in East Dulwich. You have to drill deep on www.jags.org.uk for this admission. The SE22 boundary performs some interesting gymnastics around North Dulwich Station. I still can't relate the iso-twits to real world topography as there is no underlay map. My best guess is the "North Dulwich Top" is actually centered on Goose Green. John K

See the final map in the article: North Dulwich Top Where is "North Dulwich Top"? Is this actually East Dulwich? John K

Truepenny's Property Consultants That's one notch up from estate agent. The gentrification continues. John K

Oh dear! They've put that "Roman Fort" on their map. John K

First I paid for: Taste, Yes, Cream. Royal Albert Hall. 1968. Best early one: Moby Grape. Roundhouse. 1969. Most disappointing early one: Love. Waltham. 1970. [but the audience boom mike was above my head so I'm on the Love "False Start" LP]. John K

Attached is part of an 1877 map showing the northern boundary of East Dulwich Parish. The underlying map itself looks to be c1865. Bellenden Village has an authentic historic claim to be part of East Dulwich. John K

All wrong. It's a niche clothes outlet for the East Dulwich secret demographic. Dark Star Outfitters

Estate agent.

I saw the old maps of Goose Green on the FOGG stall this afternoon. The earliest map was 1842. William Fadden's 1789 map of Kent shows Goose Green fifty years earlier. In 1789 East Dulwich did not exist and Goose Green was in Surrey. The Surrey and Kent border was just to the east of None Head (now Nunhead) and that is why Goose Green is just at the western edge of Fadden's Kent map. In pre-industrial times a settlement needed a local water supply. The Goose Green settlement was further east than where we now place it. It was separated from the Peckham settlement by a northern part of Peckham Rye and centred on a field or meadow with the (river) Pec running through it. John K

I hope you will not delete the local history threads. John K

I came across this by accident. Surrey Regiment(s) recruitment records The Surrey Regiments opened an East Dulwich recruitment office in 1914 and the record books still exist. John K

My memory of the boundaries for that parade is that the curtilage extends 12 feet from the shop frontages. Val needs to check out where her boundary lies. Unless the law has changed recently the council cannot stop her having a vegetable display within her boundary. John K

Found yesterday evening on the grit we put on the pavement to protect customers from the ice. John K

Update here. John K

Who threw the concrete block through our window last night? John K