DaveR, at last! Further, it's fascinating and bewildering why there's such reluctance and resistance in using the "t" word. Perhaps it may be seen as somehow empowering the perpetrators and even glorifying their heinous acts; or is it generally misunderstood or perplexing or ? Avoiding the word, as Obama did post Boston (though he succumbed after 24 hours), makes no sense. If this was without any social or political objectives, I'd agree, but this was not the case. Like it or not, and you may call it the rantings of a madman or fanatic but "under which actions and threats designed to influence a government may be terrorism" (Terrorism Act 2006). If it walks like a duck etc. It is what it is. El Pibe, your example of the crazed, lone, nutter Breivak had right-wing political motives and was convicted of terrorism. Agreed that the cub scout leader will probably get her medal of bravery, possibly have post traumatic stress for many years to come as may the other witnesses and those who assisted; the family and friends of the deceased will undoubtedly be distressed beyond comprehension and will be forever haunted and life will go on. . .