David, your comment about ?4,000 takings being good with a rent of ?20,000 is misguided. Of the ?4,000, take away VAT and then the actual cost of the booze and food and you are probably left with a gross profit of ?2,000 a week before all your costs: rent is just one. Rates are probably another ?10K a year, then you have salaries, wages, national insurance, utilities, insurance, building maintenance..with takings of ?4K a week the place can only be running at a loss. Good luck to the Inside 72 guys.