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Thank you for that Huggers. It's a huge scam. But this one in Lordship Lane seemed adept at it, and even 'paid' an accomplice 'witness'. Damn their eyes! Be on your guard, East Dulwichians! And take photos. Unfortunately, I didn't have my mobile with me to do that.

I've just had a run-in with a car crash scammer. I'm wondering if anyone else might have had a similar experience. I parked opposite the Co-op in Lordship Lane (10.15pm) where I was going to buy some dog food. I started parking behind a man, with plenty of room behind me, but he then indicated he was pulling out, so I waited until he did so and went into his space easily, so I was nowhere near the car behind me. Actually, even if he hadn't pulled out I would have had plenty of room to park. When I got out, a man, who looked more Middle Eastern than Turkish though, with black hair and was quite smartly dressed in a black suit) said to me: 'You hit my car'. I laughed and said I was at least a meter away from it and could in no way have hit it and I then had a close look at the front of his car, to make a point, and told him it didn't even have a mark on it. When I came out of the Co-op, a white accomplice of his, or someone he'd paid with a beer (he was drunk and had a newly poured pint of beer on his table outside the restaurant) said to me: 'You hit his car twice, I saw it.' I then laid into him for lying and asked if his full beer glass had just been bought for him by the scammer. Interestingly, a waitress came out of the restaurant and told this man to sit down and shut up, so he obviously had form, bless him. I then thanked her and drove off. The man who made the initial accusation was nowhere to be seen at this point. It might have been a one-off, but do watch out. I shall be warning my insurer tomorrow.

Oglander Road was all out, but just for 5 or 10 minutes. I rushed to 99-year-old next-door neighbour who was most confused, as she didn't realise we were all affected, but unlike me, had torch which she always keeps next to her (old Blitz habits die hard!). Is this the beginning of the outages the electricity companies have been threatening us with? I thought that was only going to happen if Labour got in and started freezing prices...

For someone called Grace, you seem to be lacking in it. Do you ever have nice thoughts? Try it. It doesn't hurt.

Why, Mr Tudor, was it funny? Someone has been murdered. I imagine that because the person arrested has not yet been charged, it's best, from a potential libel or contempt point of view, that there's no discussion on it as yet, which is why I didn't mind my thread being removed.

I think I know who the 'rude obnoxious and totally unprofessional building inspector' is. Do PM me his name. He's been in trouble before from Southwark for his superior way of looking down to tenants and treating them as though they're the scum of the earth.

Mutti - pure Italian-grown tomatoes (most 'Italian' tomatoes in supermarkets are only produced in Italy, not grown there. Big difference!). Franklin's Farm Shop on Lordship Lane sells Mutti tinned tomatoes.

A 34-year-old woman from Dulwich, south-east London, has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-31886710

Without the demand from people like Charles Richardson there would not be abuse on such an industrial scale. The internet, wonderful though it is, has a lot to answer for in this case. The torture of children for viewing is a multi-billion pound industry. So how can anyone here say it's not the same as an abuser who physically tortures the children. Think of it this way, how is what Richardson did any different from the men who log in to a site - and there are many of these vile horrors, unbelievably - where they are able after paying to watch a child being tortured live and not only that, but to dictate in what way he or she is abused, in real time. Is that any better than the actual torturer? And it's a bit rum, isn't it, for people to be baying for Christians to be showing compassion towards him when he himself hid behind the mask of being a man of God. For me, and I only met him twice, very briefly, this is the ultimate betrayal. The opposite of everything that Christ stood for in that his actions were truly evil, and truly hypocritical. How on earth could anyone watch this stuff and not be anguished and chilled to the bone. Yet he, like far too many others, watched it for pleasure. Pure sadism. And yes, the pleasure these creatures get is sexual, again, unbelievably, but the acts themselves are only of torture and abuse. And please don't regurgitate the old "well, we're all flawed" nonsense, as the Church of England did as part of their usual cover-up. Yes, we're all a mixture of good and bad, and sometimes downright wicked. But most people, thank God, are never evil. This thread has become rather nauseating, so I'm bowing out.

You are wrong, Robert Poste's Child. And please stop calling it porn. It is nothing to do with sexuality, no matter how twisted, it is everything to do with child torture and sadism. Without the demand of these sickos, there would not be a need for the supply. Of course, paedophiles would continue to abuse children, as they always have done and always will, but the industrial scale of this horror, would not exist. What is it about this simple fact that you don't understand.

KK, are you blind? Loz just said: "I'd have hoped a Christian would forgive his sins of this life and pray his soul finds some sort of peace and redemption in the next. As in "and forgive us our sins, as we forgive those who sin against us ..." I take that to mean he is able, despite not knowing his victims, to forgive this man, and is castigating us for not doing likewise... Am I wrong?

It seems to be so easy for you, Loz, to forgive this man for his crimes and to castigate those of us, Christian or not, who can't while all of this is so fresh. You're as judgmental as the rest of us. I take it you have no children. If a child of yours was harmed in this way, and you knew certain men were downloading videos of this harm to watch for their sadistic enjoyment, you might feel differently, no? As people say, it is not for us, in the comfort of our safe homes, to forgive this most heinous of crimes. It is up to the victims, eventually, and those closest to them. If they can't, then that has to be respected, surely. I couldn't give a monkey's flying toss for this man. It's a shame he fooled so many people. I, like most people here, can think only of his victims at this present moment. He killed himself only when the net was closing in, and very likely not because of any self-loathing or guilt, but simply from fear of being exposed in his parish. Had he not been found out, it's probable he'd simply have carried on.

An excellent post, Rosie H. And forgiveness, if possible, indeed lies only with those abused. Unfortunately, most of these children - and thank God, many were rescued during this case - will have been terribly damaged and the rest of their lives blighted by what they've been through.

I'm not thinking clearly Robert Poste's Child?? There's no debating with someone who has made such a leap of faith that he now believes it not beyond the realms of possibility that this man actually might have 'protected' children locally. You mean from himself? This is nothing but fantasy. I'm not saying he acted out his perversions - not all these people do - but to say he might have been a protector of children is ludicrous in the circumstances. And he might not have enjoyed watching these videos? He paid to download them. They are not free. It is well-documented that the police who deal with these crimes have to have enforced breaks and counselling because they soon start to suffer from post-traumatic stress after viewing these heart-breaking videos, as would most people.

Mr Ben, how do I know: "...But days before he was due to answer police bail he appears to have killed himself by jumping off a cliff in St Margaret?s Bay near Dover." (Daily Mail). I'm saving my compassion for his truly tormented victims. At least he's no longer spending his Church of England wages on perpetuating their suffering. So, no, Robert Poste's Child, he was not a 'passive' consumer. Without him and the thousands of others there would be no demand needing to be met. And, again, it is not porn. It's the torture of children, which some people enjoy watching for pleasure. The most sadistic crime imaginable.

Mr Ben, he was not tormented enough to kill himself. He killed himself only when he was found out. And yes, we've all done bad things and are a complex mix in this way, but not to the extent of committing what surely most people see as the greatest evil.

Loz, you talk about Christianity. What was Christian about this hypocrite? What on God's earth can be worse than perpetrating the torture of children? Getting off on the torture of children? Are we to love him? Are you nuts? Are you unable to understand the harm done to these kids? Or what. And what can be worse than doing what he did while masquerading as a man of God. And Mr Ben, yes, some child abusers say they were abused themselves. A nice defence. But those who were do not go on to abuse. In fact, most, if not all, as adults, go on to abuse only themselves, via alcohol, drugs or self harm. Surely, if you were hurt in this way, you would not then want to do the same to others. A spurious argument. What is it with you apologists?

Exactly, Edcam - and hello sailor. You've hit the nail on the head. He may well have been tormented by his twisted desires, though I doubt it as he didn't end it all until his sickness was discovered. He feared the consequences of that, not what he had become. A coward too, in other words. I do feel for his family - it's not in any way their fault. They will move on because of that. And I'm sure they share our opprobrium, amid their grief and shock.

To have committed this evil while purportedly being a representative of Christ on earth, is the greatest betrayal and hypocrisy of all. And yes, anyone who still calls it 'porn' needs to have a word with themselves. It is torture. And as to those bleating about burning in hell, those poor children in these godawful videos and pictures, are themselves living a daily hell, one that no one, never mind a child, should ever experience.

All those people he helped and comforted? You mean behind his mask, I presume. Meanwhile, he was viewing - and worse, sadistically getting off on - watching the real-life torture, physically and emotionally, of children. As to 'separate the good stuff from his personal issues'? Jesus! This is exactly the attitude of the C of E, which said, "We are all flawed human beings..." Yes, we are all 'flawed', but not to the extent of torturing little children, whether directly, or indirectly - as this man did - by encouraging the committing of these vile inhuman acts and the proliferation of them. No 'good' anyone could do could compensate for this.

Thanks Lynne. The police seem more clued up on this now than when it happened to you, as they told me it's happening a lot these days, due to the recession. Here's hoping.

This morning I awoke to find my front number plate stolen. I rang the police and they logged it, and they said they will contact DVLA. Probably done overnight. No doubt I'll get several parking tickets, congestion charge fines etc, if not worse - but I'll be ok as I reported it and now have a crime number. I asked the police why did thieves only take one plate. They said they may have been disturbed before they took the back one, but added that petrol station thieves often have two different fake plates on their cars, to baffle the CCTV, although it's risky for them driving around. They may also use my plate on a car to ram a shop or commit some other crime. I took my car to Kwik Fit later today (you have to take your V5 doc) and my new plate arrives tomorrow morning. It'll cost about ?25. The police said they'll be stopping any car with my number plate once spotted - including, he warned, me, though as long as I have my V5 I'll be fine. Has anyone else suffered this?

Reading about Our Own Dear Leader Peter John's jollies courtesy of Lend Lease was shocking. I await the outcome of the current investigation into that.

Oh, ha ha Strafer! I just got your joke! I feared for her pupils - so a bit bug-eyed was she. Very good. Sorry, I'm often a slow with jokes. That's good, I have to say Strafer!

Ha ha, Strafer. No, not bug-eyed. I don't remember her saying she'd been turned into an alien. She truly believed she'd been abducted though. Funnily enough I had a strange experience here in ED/Peckham borders a long time ago. I woke up very early one morning, about 5am, convinced there was a spaceship outside waiting for me - I visualised it in my mind as a glowing, gold Ford Cortina. So I got up, and let myself and my little dog out of the front door and closed it behind me. Then I walked to the gate, baffled as to why the 'space car' wasn't there yet. Then I really woke up, to the horror of standing in my front garden dressed only in a T-shirt (nothing, and I mean nothing, else). I managed to smash the far side of my bay window with a large stone and after carefully depositing my dog in away from the shattered glass, climbed in myself and went straight back to bed. Luckily no one saw the broken window as it was hidden by part of a hedge. I have double glazing now, so just hope it never happens again! It was the first and only time I'd sleepwalked. Mind you, I was so convinced this craft was coming for me. And more than a little disappointed when it failed to turn up. I went very willingly. Strange, eh.