FJD - Well done for counting. Sue - I didn't say the backstreet pub that it was - I believe a good backstreet pub is needed around here to counter the poncey bars that have taken over the area. KK - It was not a folk club, it was a sing-around or something which meant non professional 'singers' off the street giving it large with some ye olde English ditty. There was no quality control. Same difference of drunken footy fans singing in the pub! I like folk anyway, and have been to a few things Goose is Out have done/arranged. I feel that a Singaround in a pub does not work, however it may do in the Mag as I believe it is in a seperate area and not the main pub where Joe Public drinks. The chance to turn, or return the CPT into a good backstreet pub has been lost, and I suspect another bland pastiche of a gastropub/kid friendly/do you mind not swearing/chacterless bore TBH. BUT I hope I am wrong in that!