prdarling

I know he will do what he wants at the end of the day when he is an adult and as long as he is not breaking any laws, I will be supportive of him. I know we are not supposed to be posting anymore but this from HeidiHi just mad me smile We are to assume from this that if you have a daughter, when she is an adult and as long is not breaking any laws, you will be supportive of her... so if she wants to smoke while pregnant you'll have to do a bit of backtracking Bonsoir tout le monde

if smoking it better than stress levels why was I not told by Kings, my doctor etc to smoke No doctor is saying smoking is fab to keep your stress levels down, what the poster is saying is that as a smoker who was under huge stress for whatever reason, her doctor thought that adding to the stress by trying to stop smoking outright would be detrimental to her health. Everything seems very black and white to you...and you talk about common sense

I pay mine ?40 for 9-4, so I would agree that ?55 ish for an 8-6 day sounds about right. It's definitely not always a cheaper option than a nursery but easier to get a place, more flexible and more 1-1 care Good luck!

About ?40/45 a day per child for a full 9-5 day. Although some may offer you a slight discount for a 2nd child

It's not a question of the OP 'pointing out the risks' - it's about her verbally attacking a stranger in public for something she disapproves of. Where would we be if we all felt we had the right to do that? Nobody is 'protecting' the pregnant smoker and I'm sure I speak for most people when I agree that it's horrible, but I think the discusson is about one's personal freedom to do something which abeit disagreeable, is not against the law and is not affecting any other member of the general public. You just can't harangue everyone you come across when you don't like what they are doing!

I was heading over for 10/10.30 so let me know if you are not going. It's not looking great outside, but still, I need to do something....

Aaaggh God I can't help it. Surely littering afftects us all and pollutes/dirties our surroundings while a smoker only harms herself and it's none of our business. I agree with questioning litterbugs/people who don't clean up after dogs etc, but if people want to smoke, surely it's their business. As someone has pointed out, it's dangerous to stop something suddenly if you are that addicted. Doctors/midwives don't even recommend heroin addicts stop using drugs full stop as their bodies can't handle it. You don't know this person's circumstances. It would be great if we all lived in a rose tinted world where everything is perfect but life's not like that. It's easy to sneer at people when you think they are wrong but it would be nicer to show a little compassion.

Prdarling, that's a shame that you can't understand my logic. Am I bovvered? Nah Is it strange to query the logic of someone who is so irate about smoking in public but seems so think it's acceptable in private? You are either trolling or you are mental. Either way you are seriously weird. Think will leave this thread as you are really freaking me out now

"if you choose to do something so socially and morally unacceptable and to flaunt it so publically" OP you said earlier that she should at least have done it in private Why would this make things better. I'm struggling with your logic

"Pregnant Chav[/b..not only fat but definitely pregnant" This is a slippery slope like no other... our degenerate smoker is a "fat chav" to boot! The OP seems almost as vitriolic about the heinous smoker's weight and social class as she is about the smoking.

"This woman and her friend were twice my size and looked quite Vicky Pollard-esque." She was probably rendered speechless because she wasn't even pregnant....

Has anyone seen Billie Piper in the press this morning smoking in the presence of her toddler (and reading between the lines accusing her of being pissed as well). The Mail is positively frothing at the mouth * Who needs strangers barking at you on Lordship Lane when you've got the Daily Mail!! *can I just add quickly that I don't buy it, but peruse all press websites for work!

I would leave it and go back to it. He just doesn't seem quite ready yet. I tried to push DS1 into it a few months too early with exactly the same result as you. I put nappies back on him but 4 months or so later when he was 2y 7 months, a friend who was 6 months older came round and did a wee standng up, after that he just wanted to copy his friend, so we managed to ditch the potty as well! When it came to DS2 I left it until 2y 8 months and he cracked it in 24h Good luck

"If she is going to smoke whilst pregnant, at least do it in private" This is a very, very strange thing to say in the light of your passionate support for the rights of the unborn child

Are you for real? This is the stuff of mentalists. How can you think it's acceptable to have a go at a stranger on the street for something which is absolutely none of your business? Yes we all know smoking is bad for everyone and I'm sure the woman has it left right and centre from her midwives etc etc but at the end of the day, albeit a totally stupid one, it's her decision and it's not affecting you in the slightest so mind your own damn business and stop being so sanctimonious. If a total stranger came up to me ranting about something I was while minding my own business and not affecting anyone else, I'd be seriously alarmed about their mental health

Will try to drop by too if that's cool

Sorry forgot to say Bud is from age 2 as well. Can't help with others though sorry

sillywoman think mughal is probably a typo for nuchal???!!!

Buds do 9-1

Agree with sanity girl. Mine loved the Tripp Trapp because it meant they could be at the table with us

True for me Baby 1 12h from first twinge to delivery - 6h from when i needed G&A (1h pushing) Baby 2 6.5h from first twinge to delivery - 3.5h from needing G&A (12 minutes pushing) Still hurt like hell though :)

Great news Sally

I have got mine into Scamps at DCPS. I can't remember the details off the top of my head but if you google it, it will come up. You can do ad hoc days or book for full weeks and they do sport, arts and crafts, swimming etc. It's open 9.30-4pm and is about ?170 for the week. Looks really good fun. My 4 year old is very excited

Jamma have you read family therapist Steve Biddulph's book Raising Boys, which is subtitled "Why boys are different - and how to help them become happy and well-balanced men"?? If you haven't read it, it would probably irritate you beyond belief as the premise is clearly the direct opposite of what you are arguing! I have to say as the parent of two small boys and the aunt of two small girls I'm afraid I think that gender specific behaviour is definitely innate. My sons have always played with a wide range of toys from cars and trucks to sweeping brushes, a play kitchen, arts and crafts, pushchairs, dinosaurs... the whole 9 yards. They have never thought that anything is inappropriate for them to play with, nor have we or their childminder/pre school ever mentioned such a notion. However, the fact remains that they prefer to hit each other over the head with the toy brushes, cook dinosaurs in the oven and wheel the pushchair around whacking into as many kerbs as possible, until preferably a wheel falls off. It would NEVER occur to my nieces to do any such thing. People say > her son is 'boyish' - what does this mean? Who > says that being boyish has to mean being > aggressive, loud etc? This is what boyish means. This is what boys do. It is their nature. At no point have my sons been encouraged to be a pair of bloody monkeys but they just are. They were the first boys born in my family for generations, I have 2 sisters, my Mum has two sisters, my partner has 2 sisters, so I certainly had no preconceived notion of what boys 'do' or what boys 'are' but I have discovered over the past 4 years that they are very different creatures from little girls. Clearly not all boys are one way and all girls another but surely the fact that over the generations the word boyish has come to mean all that is rough and tumble and girly has come to mean all that is delicate and gentle surely proves the point about innate behaviour? It's not that the word boyish was defined and then assigned to rambunctious boys, but the other way around, it came into being because boys ARE rambunctious

I have two boys and could never imagine not having a girl. I was thrilled with a boy first time around as ever single one of my friends has a boy so it was perfect, I was equally thrilled with my second son as I did like the idea of same sex siblings but I was always convinced that I would have a third baby and it would be a girl. Third baby more or less out of window as we are looking to buy a new house which will mean that I will have to keep working (am self employed) and time is running out as am the wrong end of my thirties but and I am really starting to mourn the loss of a baby I will probably never have. I have turned into a real 'Peggy Mitchell' about my boys and I love them more than anything, but part of me can't let go of the idea of a little girl Perfectly normal to feel as you do. As you can see from all the responses on hear - well done for raising it PRD PS little boys really do rule the school - I understand your nerves but they are lovely little creatures with the added bonus that they won't hate you when they are teenagers...result!