Metallic

So how will anyone get to hear about this? I couldn't "attend".

This was held last night. Anyone care to feed back what happened in their view?

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The photographing of people?s homes calling > neighbours hypocrites and worse by CAD followers > was highly unpleasant by the way. I see a CAD > follower then went around Dulwich Village > photographing private family houses and posting it > on Twitter with equally unpleasant text. > Please stop! And of course no condemnation in public from any of the pro LTNers or councillors who are the first to bandwagon when they perceive the anti LTNers do something they disapprove of. Hoping the police get involved because of this intimidation.

A consultation questionnaire was created and I know it has been presented at Jags as I have a relative there. Whether it is anywhere else I don't know. And the guy from Southwark who seems to have designed the adult one is talking to children at Dulwich Hamlet in a special presentation.

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Metallic Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > So who knew the Council had designed a special > > consultation survey for schoolchildren? > > > Please elaborate further A consultation questionnaire was created and I know it has been presented at Jags as I have a relative there. Whether it is anywhere else I don't know. And the guy from Southwark who seems to have designed the adult one is talking to children at Dulwich Hamlet in a special presentation.

So who knew the Council had designed a special consultation survey for schoolchildren?

bh28 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anyone know if I can cut down a large tree in > a garden in Elsie Road? Phoned the council and > they suggested I Google it. I've tried Googling > but had no luck... Philistine.

northernmonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > And some santander bikes for that route would be > nice too - the idea of too hilly doesn't stack up > - its a gentle slope along that way and being able > to leave a bike at Brixton that you weren't > worried about not being there for the return > journey would be great. Of course no one steals bikes anywhere else but Brixton. How very, um, middle class of you.

Motorbikes still using the passageway created, on Thursday one actually overtook a pensioner who was walking through. Is it beyond the wit of Southwark Council to put up bollards either end to make it difficult to get in this space?

notimpressed Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is no great loss- hideously overpriced shop > only the bourgeois can afford. You had better move chum, East Dulwich is full of people who use the word 'bourgeois' which makes the place, um, bourgeois.

There are some estate agent style going up. Let's see how the phantom-tearer-downer seen doing it the other night, has trouble defacing them, that is vandalism.

Anyone watching the Scrutiny Committee would have seen the paramedic called Darren saying that ANPR cameras were their preferred style of closure and that permanent barriers are not. Watch it, it is still on Youtube. Frankly it is so obvious, move the flipping planters, get a camera, get a school street type hours and see how it goes. It cannot be any worse than the hell the people in Croxted Rd and East Dulwich Grove are suffering.

tiddles Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am amazed that our local councillors are > presiding over a project that has caused so much > anger, divided communities , damaged local small > businesses after a really awful time abs to cap it > all - caused horrific increases in pollution to > the majority of our community. There are a number > of streets that house very wealthy people - wide > streets, large front gardens, but key routes that > are now very quiet. I know several businesses and > residents in the shut off streets of DV - business > has dropped, and the residents hate being trapped. > There is no allowance for care workers or social > care. > If anyone can tell me this is all fine then I am > flummoxed. I have contacted councillors and it?s > like dealing with a programmed robot. They are automatons doing as they are told. Like many others who have drunk the Kool Aid, they have cars.

Some of the people commenting on here show they could have an argument about anything at all. Surely the fact that hundreds of people in parts of our area are suffering from terrible traffic whilst the council sits on its hands, is the thing we should be worried about. They will try to swing the stats they create from the consultation, I have no doubt. The Alliance people apologised and acknowledged they were wrong to use a phrase that might have upset part of our community. For heavens sake just leave it now as I have already seen the odd new poster appearing which has a more acceptable phrasing. Us supporters of a better scheme than the current one are looking forward to hearing some apologies from all the pro-cycling groups who do not care about anyone but themselves. What we need is better public transport and school street hours for the closures.

northernmonkey Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps they could use the facebook page to > suggest to supporters that they take down the tone > deaf posters they produced and handed out? > > Dulwich Alliance have finally begrudgingly > conceded that 'all roads matter' could cause > offence (whilst trying to claim that using the > statement wasn't intentional)- but shops such as > Fashion Conscience who are core Dulwich Alliance > supporters are still displaying the poster in > their window, as well as an unbelievable number of > houses on Ashbourne Grove! I was one of the complainers about that phrase but the apology says Rupa Huq MP used it. Anyway I was told there are new ones coming. There are lots up at the Plough shops.

rahrahrah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am very supportive of the filtering on Calton > Ave / Court Lane, but I just don't understand the > rationale for the restrictions on Dulwich Village > road. Work it out! Close one road the next gets the overflow, close the next, that gets it. The only way to remove traffic from our area is to give us loads of green buses that link all the stations and major bus routes. Or a tram service, indeed.

I have just come across the Dulwich Alliance Facebook page with various info notices. It's a good idea to reach further in to the ED area I think.

sweetgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just to make a point...... > In the little research I have done, many people > who live out of the area are supporting the LTN's > & road closures! > > Personally this is all nothing but a money > spinner! > Not quite sure how money prevents pollution...... Research? Do share. I'm on a semi-closed off road. I hate it.

LTN BooHoo Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The protest in the Dulwich Square today was not > well attended. Anyone know what happened? Who said it was a protest? Margy? Richard? The lady from Ash Cottage? It looked more like a photo opp to me.

It's got to go somewhere love, hard luck you've got it so that all those twee little closed off roads everywhere can support a silly LTN policy.

I'm thinking up a new phrase for "we are listening" for Southwark Council to use on the top of their comms to residents. How about: "We are listening but not registering what you say, we don't really care about any of you"

eastdulwichlocal99 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Contrary to what the supporters of One Dulwich and > the Dulwich Alliance think, any resident in > SE21/22 without off street parking has no more > right to use the roads in Dulwich than any other > U.K. resident, they are public rights of way. > > Timed restrictions through camera enforcement > creates a gated community - wrong on so many > levels. > > The pictures of stationary traffic at rush hour > are a statement of the obvious - it?s rush hour > for a reason. Come back at 10am and the roads are > dead. > > The pedestrianised areas on Dulwich Square and > Melbourne Grove are brilliant. I really hope the > council take the emotion out of their decision and > are objective on the road traffic data. > > Just because One Dulwich et al shout the loudest > does not make them right. They want a gated > community which is even worse. As I understand it, living in what is effectively a shut off street unless I want to sit in a traffic jam for 40 minutes, you are wrong. I don't think One Dulwich or their colleagues are after anything except opening the junction so stupidly christened Dulwich Square, and sharing the load of through traffic which unfortunately is what happens when you live on a main commuter route.

KrackersMaracas Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No, it?s that it?s too similar to ?all lives > matter?, a slogan associated with white > supremacists and the alt-right, intended to > dismiss and diminish the Black Lives Matter > movement. > > KidKruger Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > So what is the problem with the slogan? > > Is it that all streets do not actually matter > > therefore it?s innacurate ? > > Is it that the slogan is too similar to ?black > > lives matter? slogan and if so, what harm does > > that do / is someone saying it?s disrespectful > to > > the black community ? > > Is it that it?s just not cool and original > enough > > ? I would say it is obvious that it doesn't diminish BLM. If you look at the Go Fund Me it says they'll give any left over funds to the Ella Roberta Family Foundation. So keep calm.

Well there are streets within SE22 and SE21 who don't care about other streets, they can just pt up with the pollution and traffic. It isn't equal, it isn't fair.

EDguy89 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Oof. > > "All Streets Matter" Really not a sympathetic > slogan. > > They should really reconsider if they're actually > interested in getting more support. It looks as if there is something on twitter. But the message was passed by others - Ealing MP in particular. Agree though not the best slogan to use even if you are talking about equality of air quality.