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@Admin, following on Rockets question may we please see the rules of this forum? Where do they come from? And how did I break it (following your comments after I posted One Dulwich update; many of which were posted here before)?

I will vote anyone who promises to remove LTN - unjust and harming vanity project that should have never ever been implemented.

I am confused - is this to do with me pasting the One Dulwich update? If so, do you care to elaborate? It is about LTN. Administrator Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Last warning. > > The subject is "LTN in East Dulwich Discussion"

One Dulwich update: "Local elections 5 May 2022 The countdown to the elections has begun, but only the Labour Party has so far declared candidates for all local wards. We should hear final news of all candidates by 5 April. Why the decision on the LTNs is unsafe Our latest News piece can be found here. National media focus on Dulwich fines On 30 March, Janice Turner in The Times highlighted the ?6.6 million raised in fines. ?I find it extraordinary that a revenue model, replicated across the country, can be introduced without consultation. ?Low Traffic Neighbourhoods? create winners and losers, quiet residential streets v congested bus routes. In Dulwich and elsewhere they will be a red-hot May election issue.? On 1 April, Harry Wallop in the Daily Mail wrote about LTNs across the country ? councils? bogus data, and the difficulties caused to residents with disabilities ? and Dulwich?s ?astonishing? fines again got a mention. Confusing signage On 31 March, a local resident tweeted a picture of an ambulance driver in Court Lane who refused to believe that the Dulwich Village junction was open to emergency vehicles. In response, Cllr Margy Newens tweeted that emergency vehicles can and do drive anywhere, but promised to ask Southwark Highways to alert the LAS to the new situation. ?Obvs LAS must update its systems and drivers.? Surely this is missing the point. Shouldn?t Southwark be putting more effort into improving signage at this confusing junction (something the LAS has already requested)? Or maybe ? thinking again about the ?6.6 million raised in fines ? the poor signage across Dulwich is actually because the Council doesn?t really want anything to be made clear at all?"

"At times I've asked myself the question: is this a straight debate amongst neighbours about the best way to reduce traffic, or is it being used by some to push a wider but concealed political agenda?" I think exactly the same about the opaque Clean Air Dulwich or Friends of Dulwich Square - have the friends of the closed Dulwich Village junction stopped for a minute to think how this closure will affect their neighbours on South Circular or Lordship Lane? Why is their need to have the roads closed so they can cycle there is more important than my desire to have rush hours twice a day instead of all day long in front of my flat?

"Why not stick to the real issues of the best ways to reduce traffic and car use?" - LTN does not help with this. At all. How such a detached from reality and unjust scheme could ever see a daylight is unfathomable. I agree with Rockets that to a certain degree it is a class war or rather money have/have not. The most polluted roads are the main roads. Why did I buy a flat on such a road? Because it was cheaper. Did I expect peace and quiet? Of course not. I was dreading it; thankfully, you can get used to it, to a certain degree at least and you keep thinking it?s not for ever. What did LTN do to the main roads? Pushed more traffic onto them, creating more stationary traffic and making them more polluted and noisy as a consequence. What did Southwark council do to help to improve air quality and tackle the noise issue on the main roads? Nothing. By introducing LTN they made it worst. At the same time, they had no problem with closing roads like Court Lane ? already peaceful and quiet, where hardly anyone can afford to buy a house. I don?t drive and never owned a car. I asked few neighbours what would make them to stop driving or drive less ? they said that it would only be a price of driving, if it becomes too expensive. They hate LTN, they are stuck in the traffic for much longer now, have to take all sorts of detours but have no intention to ditch their cars. Public transport is also crucial and yet it becomes worst and worst. Bus frequency has been reduced and bus routes senselessly altered (nr 40). Trains frequency has been reduced; tickets fares are ridiculously high for what Southern offers; trains from London Bridge to ED or Forest Hill are delayed and cancelled more often than not and yet Govia has been granted new 3 yrs contract.

Agree Heartblock - time for a change.

Nothing more dodgy than Southwark labour councillors association with property developers.

It is just like Clean Air Dulwich - ferocious pro LTN supporters - cannot find a single name on the internet as to who these people are. Friends and families of the local labour councillors? Who knows?

As long as the one party state which is Southwark is broken up am ok with it. Plus there finally will be someone who wants LTN removed.

From my perspective, there is nothing to celebrate 🤔

I like Heartblock's ideas. Agree with Rockets: LTN segregates children and people in general into the better ones, deserving cleaner air and those who don't. I don't see anyone from the pro LTN commando commenting on that; what a surprise - they don't want better air quality for everyone, only closed roads for themselves..

Remove LTN in Dulwich - serving a handful of people and harming local community.

So basically this is pure nepotism - trying to get money for your friends and family.

Where is this info available re: Dulwich labour cllrs and property developers pls? slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > VotethemoutMay22 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > A group of us have got together (from all > parties)because we believe that our local Dulwich > councillors have not represented everyone in the > community when pushing for the Dulwich LTNs. > > A bit of an understatement there. I think what > you mean is our local councillors have > represented a tiny minority of activists and > misled and ignored the vast majority of their > constituents! > > Fascinating reading of some of the candidate > profiles, I had no idea how closely several of > the Labour councillors are associated with > property developers, very clear conflicts of > interest there, I am surprised the Labour party > tolerates it.

Have you donated? No? So its none of your business what people are doing with their money.

I donated to One Dulwich and have no problem with that. Need to keep trying as long as there is hope to remove the harmful, unjust and utterly ineffective scheme which is LTN. The rest of the money can be donated or, even better, used to remove the planters and bollards currently blocking the roads.

I only received a leaflet from infamous Cllrs Rose and Simmonds in Dulwich Wood which went straight into the bin. Hope May election will see them out.

Whoever does it is in fact a criminal and should be punished. Not to mention that if the tyers have to be replaced and the old ones thrown away it simply producing unnecessary rubbish. Let's see what the pro LTN commando has to say when planters and bollards currently blocking some roads are removed or damaged by someone.

Complete lunatics. Hope they are caught and fined.

Hope it's spend on removing b***y planters and bollards

LTN = discrimination https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/exclusive-dulwich-alliance-back-away-from-legal-challenge-to-low-traffic-neighbourhood/?fbclid=IwAR0lGPcKoHk3SWael0Q5G8BeAB7Wl84g1W0Pi8cv-IyH59XCXbDEdWxCFRU

Well, I'm always a pessimist when it comes to Vlad the Psychopath. The Guardian and UK for UNHCR have listed charities helping Ukraine: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/feb/28/how-can-britons-help-the-people-of-ukraine https://www.unrefugees.org.uk/take-action/how-to-help-ukraine/

To hell with LTN and all those who invented it! Throw your neighbours under the bus - what fun!

Traffic has increased on the roads such as LL, EDG, Croxted Rd and on many other roads such as Overhill Rd or Crystal Palace Rd. Anyone living on these roads or using them knows this. Of corse, if all you do is cycle from Dulwich park to the closed junction in DV via Court Lane then you have no idea what is going on in a real world.