As a parent of 3, including twins, and someone who enjoys responsible drinking, I think it will probably be quite clear where my views on this lie. And I think on this thread at least it is pretty much game, set and match. However, good for Marie81 to join this thread and state that she 'didn't mean to offend any parents'. It probably might have been easier for her to ignore this thread or post something more inflamatory. Right that said I'm off to drink meths and try and sell the youngest on e-bay.