
first mate
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According to some, it will have been children wot did it. As we head towards warmer weather and fair weather cyclists start to increase, I think we will see many more hire bikes blocking access on pavements.
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Southwark consultation on Peckham gyratory
first mate replied to Marguerita98's topic in Roads & Transport
Wondering about impact of Gala on all this too? -
Really, I have no idea. What about you Snowy? You comfortable with it?
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Having discovered that Lime is partly funded by Google Ventures and Uber, is it a good idea to give them the 'freedom' of our streets to the degree Southwark seem to want? I think they are dangling some sweeteners to make the "deal" happen.
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I totally agree. The consultations have been clearly in the majority, against.
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Even Southwark refer to the Dulwich LTN as not a true LTN, whatever that means. I also do not understand the '5 years later' response. If people are unhappy with changes to road and layout then the time that has elapsed since initial changes were introduced is beside the point.
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https://x.com/NFBUK/status/1787211980027101194
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The broader point is how TJ GP Practice continues to get away with it. They were given an amazing site, you really could not ask for better, but the outfit (GP super practice) that runs it has an extremely poor history, going back many, many years. Which begs the question, how this shower were ever given such a wonderful, prime site in the first place? It is truly appalling and a huge loss to the community.
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Any sensible person wants safer, cleaner roads but you don't get that by turning up the thumbscrews as tight as you can on those driving cars, while allowing a massive proliferation of another type of powered transport, almost unhindered with zero checks. The pace of change is too fast and more to do with political box ticking and revenue grabbing than genuine environmental concern, in my view. If the council were so concerned about the environment, just consider for a moment what they are happy to allow to happen with GALA on Peckham Rye. Utter hypocrisy on their part. FWIW I am not and never have been a car lobbyist. As I have said, until I am blue in the face, I cycle more than I drive- but sometimes I need a car; rather like you, Malumbu.
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Same old games. There are parking pressures on many roads where Southwark have increased double yellows, ostensibly for safety reasons, but where a very useful (to them) result is also to reduce parking spaces on that road. Then add in roads adjacent or close by CPZ, they will also have reduced parking because they will now be taking those cars that cannot easily park in the CPZ zone. It is laughable that you try to pretend you are not aware of this. I would have so much more respect for the cycle activists on here if they simply admitted, you want rid of as many cars as possible, one way to do that is to create a parking nightmare. At the same time you get to virtue signal and but also help Southwark get loadsa money in parking fees.
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Clearly all these issues are to do with children, that has to be the only explanation. Children must also be going round moving carefully parked bikes and scooters, placing them in the middle of pavements and pedestrianised public spaces too. That is pretty damning but not surprising. This is the outfit that Southwark want to gift a slice of each street.
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But if Southwark had not manufactured a parking issue in the first place, we would not see so much of this as there would be no need.
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I think they will probably have to, at some point. Even so, your somewhat disingenuous response should be called out for what it is. You would dismiss any data collected by those you view as anti cycling, and label it as coming from a place of "anger", as subjective or even a figment of the collective imagination. So no, I'll reject your suggestion, which is not genuine and a further example of your consistent deflection. Council data is what we need.
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Ah, yes, it can only be that. People are just randomly going round pushing over properly parked Lime bikes. Pull the other one. Clearly, the current system is not working. Bikes are still being dumped willy nilly, and clearly users are not being fined hundreds of pounds, as you suggest is the case, or we would not have the issue, would we. As we all know, actions speak louder than words. I think Lime are holding out some very tempting carrots to Southwark, so it will be interesting to see the impact on the area, for better or worse, this summer. At more or less empty Dulwich Sq today ( that well known south London social hub) there were some e-bikes and scooters left in the pedestrian area, but the designated parking bays were empty. Perhaps because they are well heeled visitors who can afford the hundreds of pounds in fines that are allegedly heading their way.
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I would like to see Southwark's massive parking surplus reinvested in proper monitoring of e-bike impacts, locally. They have rolled out lots of TMOs around e-bike use but there seems little evidence of monitoring or data, so far. As CPZ increase so will use of patrolling parking wardens. We need to find a way for those who park e-bikes irresponsibly to be identified and fined, much as we would someone parking a car badly. This may involve sharing data between the hire company or registration outfit and Southwark. It is not enough to leave the issue of penalties to the hire company as their commercial interests will always supersede other considerations.
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Further deflection and 'gaming' of this thread. Not local, not e-bikes, not relevant. Plus not remotely interested in Malumbu's interior monologues. Back on subject. No thoughts, as yet, on how to get e-bike users to stop dumping their two wheeled vehicles irresponsibly, blocking pedestrian access.
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Deflection. This is about how hire e-bikes are dumped after use; only you have framed me as an "expert user". I have not made that claim, you have. Are you seriously suggesting that unless I discuss how to use a Lime bike app, I am not qualified to comment on how e-bike riders behave? Another example of how you cycling advocates try to turn a serious issue into a game.
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Did those photos show cars parked on double yellows. March46 was arguing there were no double yellows? And, it is not necessarily about charges, though those also have an impact, but about proximity. Some of the worst parking seems to involve delivery and home services (building, plumbing etc). If someone is on a job there is a limit how far they can carry tools etc and double parking to make delivery is not always possible. You talk about mothers; for all you know some of the cars parked badly may belong to busy mothers, dropping off kids, unloading the shop... Those cars may belong to a carer or relative picking up an elderly person to take them to a medical appointment and parking further away is not feasible. Southwark have deliberately created a parking problem, so examples of bad parking are likely to increase, which is counter productive, don't you think?
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As a cycling advocate, how can we get hire e- bike users to stop dumping their bikes and blocking pedestrian access?
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e-bike users are a group that errr use e-bikes. I make conclusion based on what I see or hear about user behaviour. There is currently no reliable data, although this is exactly what the council should be producing. Also, can we please get a break from your faux sadness. If all this is genuinely affecting your mood then I respectfully suggest you give less time to it.
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What are you on about? Just earlier photos of bad parking, almost certainly the result of Southwark's manufactured parking pressure were on display. You don't give a fig because you do not live in the area. But I also think a lot of this is a bit of a game to you. You seem to enjoy it.
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if only Lime bike users could be trusted to park their vehicles somewhere responsibly, all the evidence so far is not. Plus, given these are often used for short journeys (maybe to pick up a latte- who knows) I doubt many would be prepared to walk the distance to or from Sainsbury's car park. By and large, the e-bike 'revolution' feels quite anti pedestrian.
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I believe that it is up to the council to monitor impacts of wholesale and expensive environmental changes they have introduced, without mandate.
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Southwark have already created parking pressure with the combi of double yellows and CPZ, therefore streets without either, in certain areas, are now much more likely to suffer from the type of parking behaviours those photos show. It 's just like displaced traffic caused by LTNs. Don't act as though you do not know perfectly well what is going on and why. This is a systematic, concerted and deliberate effort to maximise parking pressure to achieve the borough-wide CPZ Southwark have clearly and repeatedly stated they want. Problem for them is they cannot do this without people complaining about parking issues. Solution, use every trick in the council book to create them.
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