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But on current evidence the wouldn't be parked like motorbikes, they'd just be left lying in the street. You see the difference is people with motorbikes mostly care about the equipment. It seems many using hire bikes do not give a fig.

Thanks Admin, good call and my bad for posting in LTNs.

Rah, There are already cycle stands there. How, precisely does marked bays or more room stop people leaving the bikes laying around on the ground? I think you know that it won't. It certainly does not make a difference to how Lime bikes are left on Lordship Lane. Even in the area described, across from Peckham Rye, there is plenty of room to place the bikes, one just gets the impression it is too much trouble for the user. Easier to leave it lying on the pavement, wherever they choose to dismount. I understand that your argument for marked bays is simply another way to achieve your agenda of forcing car users out, but I really do not think it addresses the issue here.

I forgot my phone or would have posted a picture. Junction of Barry Rd next to pedestrian crossing and entrance to Peckham Rye Park. A jumble/ heap of around 20 Urban Forest hire bikes strewn around the pavement. Unsightly, a hazard and just plain wrong.

The psychology of the speeding cyclist seems similar to that of the speeding motorist. In fact, I think the latter are often high-handed converts from the former. Rah Nx is already car free on Saturdays fir the market, no real need to make it so full time. BTW have you sold your own car yet?

Beats me why an allegedly socialist administration is spending so much time, effort and money turning one of the wealthiest parts of the borough into a traffic- free utopia, letting those on the fringes take the hit from traffic increases.

He has much more important things to do. Probably in Liverpool right now.

Given the possible stated link with Berkley Developments, this link may be of interest, noting Cllr Rose' profile https://www.35percent.org/revolving-doors/

RX3, Am I right in thinking that Lime has hooked up with LCC? It is a California based tech company, I believe? Can you say how many fines have been issued against Lime bike users in Camden to date? How does the fining system work? It's not an issue in some parts of London (City and Camden for example), where they've marked out on street parking bays and worked with the companies to ensure that there are fines / bans for those who don't use them. The problem here is that as much as people don't like them on the pavement, many would not like them on the road either (loss of parking). Personally, I would make sure that every street had at least one space for a car club car, and one or two for hire bikes - on the road (not the pavement).

Lebanums, Words fail. I'd love to know what the costing on this 'repair' is. They spent more time marking out, by the look of it.

Jenijen, Having seen some recent reports on the effects of glysophate- the commonly used broad spectrum herbicide, I would advocate hand weeding or hoeing.

Malumbu said "Know many who bought rats, sorry small dogs," Bit unnecessary.

Or just issue fines for leaving a bike lying across a pavement or road. There are possibly enough community/ parking wardens doing their ticketing rounds as well as CCTV cars to make the odd fine viable? You just need enough of a deterrent to make hirers think twice about where they are leaving the bike and whether it is a sensible choice. Who or what is stopping a cycle hirer leaving their cycle parked neatly on the road... nothing really, no need for special bays.

I can see that the urge to populate road space with parked bikes might be a very attractive option for some, in that it further reduces car parking space. But, those with motorbikes tend to care about how they are parked, not least to reduce damage to the property they own. Seeing the way hire bike users are leaving the bikes and scooters randomly strewn around I think leaving them in the road might create more negatives than positives. Of course, much depends on the ability of those using the bikes to behave like grownups and less like toddlers.

Not sure that is the answer. If, despite marked areas on the pavement, bikes are just left lying around surely the same will happen on the road.

Does anyone know how much this particular consultation process is costing?

Having looked the signs are identical. Southwark has placed a no entry sign at the start of a road on the basis that it leads to other roads which do have restrictions. Dodgy or what. By that logic you could place no entry signs all over the shop.

In the scheme of things, who cares? They won!

DKHB, completely agree and hoping Councillors see this thread and think about drawing a line in the sand, before it gets out of control. It absolutely should be the council who sort this with the relevant organisations.

Many thanks for all your hard work on this. I feel so very lucky to continue to have access to this fantastic local resource. Just feedback, no criticism intended, when I click on a thread subject I cannot really read many of the earlier threads, they all seem to be drawn out into a series of unreadable long, thin vertical lines, with one word per line. Is this an equipment issue or how it should be? Sorry not threads, but earlier replies within a thread.

Has to be said, fantastic match and amazing result.

I beg to differ. Sections of public space in key areas have been put at the disposal of this company and their users. I'd think it perfectly reasonable for our councillors to liaise with the organisation on our behalf and that sort of intervention is likely to be a good deal more effective too.

Sorry, DKHB, missed your comment that possibly Lime employees are responsible for some of the random pavement bike dumpings? If that is so, I'd hope the Council takes note and does something about it. A wheelchair user or even someone with limited mobility could be severely affected.

It just seems so incredibly thoughtless and frankly stupid, more akin to the actions of young children, especially the bikes and scooters that are left lying in the middle of paths. Unless it is actually mostly kids doing it? The state of the pavement outside Superdrug today was something else too. It is starting to look a right old mess.

Walking along Lordship Lane today, including side streets, I encountered five instances of pairs of electric Lime Bikes left in the middle of the pavement blocking it. Just not acceptable. Over the summer I have seen more of these bikes left lying around, blocking pavements. What is going on and why do bike users think this is okay?