first mate

I think the figures have been corrected as the numbers signing went up then down again, so the existing figure is probably genuine. People can share an IP address.

Yet more inane stereotyping.

Slarti b?s assertions are worth further scrutiny though.

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=500000049 2222

It does seem likely the council have justified certain interventions with misleading stats and you are quite right to question and pursue this. The idea that only those with qualifications in traffic management can ?understand? sounds a bit desperate. slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > What I like is the prospect of OneDulwich - > entirely unqualified in traffic management and > > environmental monitoring - bickering over > pollution measurement methodologies. > > The OHS agenda and the subsequent so called > "Covid" measures have been driven by the local > councillors. Do they have any qualifications in > traffic management, or indeed related disciplines > such as engineering? From linkedin they seem to > be a Digital Content consultant (whatever?) and a > sugar trader. > > AS for the council officer who has been key in the > helping the councillors with OHS and the so-called > Covid changes: he has based the justification for > teh closures on a 47% increase in traffic through > the DV junction. This figure is totally > misleading, with base figures taken during > re-building work on the DV junction in Sep 2017. > He has also defended the strange traffic stats for > Calton Avenue, used to support the DV junction > closure, whilst unable to explain the > discrepancies with the earlier TfL survey. If he > is qualified in traffic management why is he > behaving in this way? > > I do find it odd that his email signature has no > details of his professional qualifications but I > will be happy to hear what they are. > > Onedulwich has supporters who are engineers and > professionals used to assessing figures (eg I > studied Maths and Statistics and have worked > analysing numbers for many years) and we also have > an experienced traffic engineer for advice. We may > not all be qualified in traffic management but we > are able to recognize when people are trying to > pull the wool over our eyes.

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=500000049&RPID=772834242&HPID=772834242

What is the latest on the Southwark Road Closure petition? I cannot now seem to get the links that were working to direct to the right information, instead they are linking to a Southwark minutes and meetings, which is very odd. Can someone post up a link that works and latest count please?

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > ay.aspx?id=500000049 > > 2069 now Heading towards 3000

Wow, is that really true? Presumably Melbourne residents doing this were probably against CPZ? Cannot believe anyone would vote in all day CPZ and then go and park for free in a neighbouring non CPZ street. However, if this is happening in any numbers it makes you wonder if it was a majority who wanted CPZ in Melbourne Grove?

http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=500000049 2069 now

Perfect.

Seems plausible enough.

Other large sectionS of the park are given over for recreational use by children, parents and younger people: football, other sports, adventure playground, large children?s playground and you?d begrudge one tiny area being set aside for those, probably older, who want something more sedate? Your provocative use of language indicates you are trolling again but just in case you are really serious then think again.

Yes, perhaps one or a handful of residents supported by pro CPZ campaigners from outside the area. My only point is that the ?interference? of outsiders charge cuts both ways.

Indeed, a final say like should the hours be time limited or all day but the fact that there will be CPZ at all is a result of all stages of consultation.

Not sure that is the case and if it was why would the extremely well informed SC urge members outside of borough consultation areas to get involved and submit?

Well, hitherto, consultations in favour of CPZ have been bulked out by cyclists well out of the area. Southwark cyclists and LCC actively encourage their members to participate in CPZ consultations much further afield.

Serena2012 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The petition asking Southwark to reverse the > closures in Dulwich Village and East Dulwich now > has over 500 signatures. Linking again > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > ay.aspx?id=500000049 > > I?m with FairTgirl, in that school streets are to > be supported. Arguably, this should include > Melbourne South and Whateley Road (in the case of > Whateley, they could have a gate keeper similar to > Elsie Road, which would allow buses through). > However the closures in their current state are > not proportionate, and seem to benefit certain > streets, whilst causing significantly increased > levels of pollution on others. This is not > equitable, nor is it improving air quality. http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?id=500000049 Now over 700 signatures.

dougiefreeman Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Online Southwark petition is now live > > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > ay.aspx?id=500000049 206 now signed. It needs 500.

first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > FairTgirl Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Hi, the petition is going very well, and there > is > > a new petition now live on Southwarks website > as > > well here; > > > > > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > > > ay.aspx?id=500000049 > > > > I have also updated the original post as > Richard > > Livingstone is no longer in his post, > Councillor > > Catherine Rose is now in the role with a > > responsibility for Southwark roads. Also there > is > > a new cabinet role for Low Traffic Southwark, > and > > councillor responsible for that is Radha > Burgess. > > > > Please also email them to let them know your > > concerns about these road closures. > > [email protected] > > [email protected] Hi, cannot seem to get that link to work. Is it meant to go direct to petition?

Yes, the planters have had a major, negative impact on traffic on main routes and if this is now also hindering emergency services that is very worrying.

I think you know that is not what I was alluding to.

If they can and really want to they will. At the moment there are other things to consider. There has to be balance.

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FairTgirl Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi, the petition is going very well, and there is > a new petition now live on Southwarks website as > well here; > > http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDispl > ay.aspx?id=500000049 > > I have also updated the original post as Richard > Livingstone is no longer in his post, Councillor > Catherine Rose is now in the role with a > responsibility for Southwark roads. Also there is > a new cabinet role for Low Traffic Southwark, and > councillor responsible for that is Radha Burgess. > > Please also email them to let them know your > concerns about these road closures. > [email protected] > [email protected]