first mate

Or DIC.

And yet Raab felt it necessary to point out that he was not present... at an event that never happened. Seabag Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Number 10 are sticking with/ doubling down on > > ?It never happened?

I remember this differently. Someone got very, very upset about alleged dangers to them and their children why cycling across the junction, because of the protest. DulwichCentral Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Rockets wrote: > > You can try to deposition all you like on > semantics but people went to the Town Hall to > protest just like a lot more people from that Age > Speaks group protested in Dulwich Square over the > summer (so many in fact that someone on here > couldn't ride their bike through the junction and > screamed blue murder about it! winking smiley) and > then even more people protested at the Square this > autumn (again which riled some people about the > alleged blocking of the cycle lane which was never > actually blocked). > > I know it riles you that people oppose these > measures but good on them for doing something > rather than sitting back and accepting the status > quo and folding (as the council and most pro-LTN > lobbyists would have hoped would have happened by > now). > > ------------------------------------ > > > There you go again Rockets - making things up :)) > > > nobody 'screamed blue murder' about not being able > to ride their bike through the square. They said > they were turning off the main road with children > cycling and could not get off the main road > because people were blocking access to the square. > It was dangerous. > > Anyway glad to see you're finally calling it the > Square :)

I don't read it that way. I think it is more like reposition- as in a brand. No doubt Rocks will clarify but I for one have no problem trying to understand what he is saying

I would also contend Malumbu is wrong in his much repeated 'inconvenience' line which is, of course, so 'convenient' in supporting his/her line on posters daring to question the efficacy of local LTNs but, like you Rockets, glad he sleeps soundly at night...

CQC report indicates issues https://www.cqc.org.uk/location/1-565650623 In detail https://api.cqc.org.uk/public/v1/reports/7adfb214-b04e-4d6d-93d7-4506eee98aaf?20211028070142

Otto2 Agreed.

I guess I am as interested in the 46% percent who do not cite walking and buses as their dominant form of transport and knowing more about why they don't, and what impact the current measures have on them, and whether those impacts are positive or not? Of course you are correct, access to transport is not just about physical disability.

Legal, thanks for the link. At 1:40:26 Catherine Rose asserts that 52% of disabled people cite walking and bus use as their dominant form of transport. It would have been more helpful to indicate the percentage of physically disabled (as in serious mobility issues) who cite walking and buses as their dominant form of transport. As we know disability is an umbrella term for a whole variety of issues that affect individuals but do not necessarily impact mobility. It is a small point but just one example of how this council operates.

gabys1st Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Have hears that Aldi sells silent ones. Great if that is what most people people buy. I believe even the quiet ones are still quite polluting though. I was just thinking in terms of things we do purely for pleasure that have a proportionately negative impact.

Of course, anyone concerned about polluting the environment will be against all fireworks on principle.

Hear, hear. Lot's of convenient misconceptions about Blue Badges...it does not in any way represent a ticked box meaning all those with some sort of disability affecting ability to travel are therefore sorted. Hitmyhat Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The Blue Badge exemptions are only available to > Southwark residents so any Blue Badge holder > living in Lambeth, for example on Rosendale Road > or the Lambeth side of Croxted Road cannot get an > exemption! The same applies to Blue Badge holders > from anywhere other than Lambeth who need to visit > someone within the LTN. Just because a Blue Badge > holder doesn?t live in Southwark doesn?t mean > their disability magically disappears when they > enter Southwark. And what about all those with > considerable mobility problems who don?t quite > qualify for Blue Badges? The criteria for Blue > Badges are very strict and people can have severe > mobility problems but not be able to get a Blue > Badge.

Already started round here. When did Halloween become a reason to let off fireworks?

Not only that, this council has demonstrated before that they are prepared to use minority support at consultation to justify actions...remember the CPZ consultation? The opinions of a small minority certainly counted then. I think the only possible conclusion is what we thought all along, consultations are viewed as a necessary evil by councils but actually do not count for anything, unless the results can be shown to support council actions.

Otto2 you are careful to use the word "appears" to qualify your statement which renders it an empty attempt to skew perceptions of those who are anti LTN. Please desist from this sort of nonsense. As we all know "appearances", especially on social media, can be deceptive. Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Otto2 Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > A great deal of > > social re anti-ltn appears to come from Nigel > > Farage party members. Who I think are keen on > > dividing and conquering and creating political > > divisions over environmental issues. > > WOW > > That's a leap and pretty slanderous as you are > making a sweeping statement about other people > without any evidence > > The pro lobby seem to be reaching the bottom of > the barrel now.

Because what is needed is to stop the current model, step back, consult properly and come up with solutions/ a model that is not purely driven by ideology but that takes local knowledge and views into account.

Malumbu has implied they might be a woman...

I second that.

Sorry Mops, not my intention.

Mops, for the benefit of others on here who would suggest you cycle or walk your dog to the park or take public transport, can you explain why those options will not work? Please be clear, I am not criticising you, I just think that detail of individual circumstances is useful and revealing.

Sally, do you know what a Ridgeback looks like or are you trying to divert into another issue? A dog leaving puncture wounds in another is different from "poor control" not sure what you mean by that vague statement? Perhaps you should start another thread?

I think you know the point I am getting at though Otto. Is it the case that those using cars less, cycling more and virtue signalling, are more reliant on online deliveries and online shopping. I don't know that answer but perhaps there is some research? Seriously, how many people could really truly do a house move by bike? If you are young with few possessions and moving within the same area then yes, otherwise...hmmm.