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Heartblock, Did you ever find out more on this?

Careful, Mal or Claus the Forest Hill Cycle Campaigner (dunno) is easing things away from LTNs again.

Pretty shocking (or maybe not) they would lie so blatantly about reasons why building work was held up at Charter. I had to ask because it seemed so unlikely that the partly dismantled Chateau site would have been used as a Pandemic Vaccination and test site.

What I love about this conspiracy theory is that it simultaneously requires Southwark Council to be totally inept and a cabal of scheming geniuses. Scheming, yes; geniuses...err, no.

Well, it is being given as a major reason for the delay in building work through the Pandemic. I stand to be corrected; does anyone recall getting a vaccination at the Charter School/ Chateau site during lockdown?

EX Dulwicher said: "So for a CPZ, the purpose is to temporarily limit the parking supply to prevent the residential areas around schools and stations in particular from turning into Piccadilly Circus for 2hrs every morning and evening". But if that is the only reason why are they seeking to extend CPZs everywhere (that is geographically and on timings?). Back to LTNs, traffic on main roads is worst it has ever been. I have never known it as bad. We need some decent pollution monitoring, as fumes from idling traffic will travel, affecting air quality further afield.

Just reading. Was anyone aware of the Chateau being used in the Pandemic as a vaccination site? I thought that was done at TJ. Is the Chateau going to be retained? I hope so.

Heartblock, I feel for you, especially as part of the reason for making Melbourne Grove a blocked off LTN was because it has the school entrance. Mind you, I suppose they would argue that the 'market' they insisted on foisting on the street gets in the way now. The little chess moves on their board are so obvious.

Being disabled, I find your comment about disabled rights very nasty. I challenge you to take a few days in my situation and see how f@(/ing inconvenient lime bikes sprawled across the pavement really are ! You shouldn't have to even reveal that to make the case. Many of us, I am sure, have personal experience of disability. Hence the strength of feeling. And again, many on this thread also cycle, but they are not sanctimonious, myopic, campaigners.

You're Claus from the Forest HIll Society and I claim my £50. A proflic cycle campaigner who attempted to implement a mini LTN at Forest Hill station which was soon reversed when it was unworkable. Aaah. Now it makes sense. Claus the cycle campaigner.

Well, bike dumping is literally on the increase and there are certainly types of crime and violence increasingly associated with e-bikes and scooters.

There was never a major issue with parking until it was created. It is largely a manufactured problem.

Sorry if my objection to fireworks is inconvenient for you. But no, I can't just 'get over it'.

Fireworks tonight. Wonder what the occasion is?

Does anyone know how much this review will cost?

Perhaps not a good idea of public to be messing around clearing public drains? Rats are a thing and Weil's is dangerous. If this is a problem area both Council and water authority should be alerted and whichever most relevant sort it.

In summary, This is not just about carbon footprints. Animal welfare should also be considered and that includes wildlife. Nonetheless, that said, I do not begrudge a few organised events every year on specific dates, preferably with low noise fireworks now available. Again, if pet owners know then they can avoid. The poor wildlife just has to cope but, unlike pets, they can within reason escape and/or hide. It is the impromptu, without warning, back garden extravaganzas that are the real problem, invariably the most gratuitously noisy and 'bangy'.

Not sure where you think the misunderstanding is. Bikes and scooters are being left lying around in a way that hinders Active Travel and those less mobile/disabled. Thus far there seems no plan to deal with that. There seems to be a body of evidence in other countries that the bike/e-scooter-plonk-it-anywhere-when-you-are-done syndrome, gets worse not better without some form of intervention and regulation.

Perhaps we only need hire e-bikes and dump the e-scooters before the local area becomes a dumping ground for them.

Lead by example and if you are still using them or attending 'big bang' events then stop.

As I hear displays starting for what will no doubt last for days it is worth reading this link, bearing in mind that is just one animal species. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/03/bonfire-night-fireworks-cause-major-distress-to-wild-geese-study-finds

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/10/29/cities-are-cracking-down-on-shared-e-scooters/ Seems the evidence against e-scooters has been out there for some time. Why wait for the same issues to emerge here?

Yes, but Southwark has expressed a commitment to Active Travel and to supporting rights of disabled and less mobile. Bikes/scooters cluttering up the pavements hinder both. Therefore, even if there is currently nothing to say where hire bikes should be left, perhaps there needs to be? I say hire bikes because, to date, I have not seen privately owned bikes left in a similar manner.

I do agree with this. If the bangs and fizzing noises, but especially the bangs, can be removed it would make a huge difference.

Yes, they really do need to get ahead of the game and have a workable plan. There is enough evidence of what is going on in other countries to make this a necessity.