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I thought the Council had simply ignored the many local Dulwich residents who objected, so any feedback taken on board has been highly selective. It is you that is clinging to ideology. You seem to be saying that because LTNs work in some places that is reason to continue if they don't work elsewhere , because we don't live in a perfect world? One Dulwich are concerned with efficacy in one area, which as we know, has a low PTALS score. You also justify your position by keep stating we should believe the data and the 'overall' picture, even though the methodology is flawed- as we know the Council have been highly selective about where they have collected their data. This seems to be a case of waiting long enough for the dust to settle and then spinning the past, counting on the likelihood that many will lose track of what has gone on and why. I have nothing to do with One Dulwich but I like the questions they keep asking and hope they will continue because this Council is getting away with a lot. I still cannot believe the overall cost of Dulwich Square- unnecessary profligacy at a time when every penny counts. As I have also said before, I am a regular cyclist and occasionally use a car. I am not a rabid petrolhead; but I dislike lies, manipulation and extremism driven by ideology or, in the Council's case, a need for money. I dislike how on the one hand our council smugly trumpets how green it is because it wants to get all cars off the streets and tells us how our children should be free to play on streets instead, but on the other is intensely relaxed about selling off our park land for use by the highest bidder and see those areas damaged in the process. It is hypocrisy at its finest.
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No need to try and tempt me to the park; I go regularly. As for the street party rationale, many houses round here have gardens; blocks of flats have communal gardens, and neighbours pop round all year round, or they say hello in the street or at shops. Neighbours that are not so social tend to avoid street parties like the plague, in my experience anyway. I have been to street parties and they are pleasant enough but do I want to encourage the idea of kids playing in the street- no, especially when we are blessed with so much green space. Don't you find it even slightly odd and contradictory that Southwark want us to free up tarmac roads for kids to play on, while at the same time they want to give up green park space for private hire?
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But, as we have said before, terms like 'average', 'in general', 'overall' 'broadly' are not really that helpful. The issue is with LTNs in certain areas; sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. Good methodology is key to good data, if the methodology is flawed the data is not reliable.
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Come on Earl, it is about making a point and you know it. There are many more suitable places to meet your neighbours and for kids to play and you know that too. Quite apart from that, I regularly say hello to my neighbours when I see them in the street (we have pavements). Funnily enough, cars don't seem to impede those interactions in any way. My understanding is the road is closed to cars so I doubt anyone would be navigating through at any speed, so a pretty redundant comment and point.
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There really is a concerted attempt to rewrite history by some pro-LTN folk on here. The level of disinformation is astounding.
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Having listened to some of the Southwark Council scrutiny session in July, I discovered that London Cycling Campaign (which includes Southwark Cycling) are working very closely with Lime and Lime are funding LCC initiative. Lime are also pushing to reduce car parking and fund Lime bays and shared use cycle racks on every street, if they can. Presume the idea is the bays are not just for e-bikes but also e-scooters. There was discussion - not that fruitful- on limiting irresponsible riding, including on pavements and discarding of Lime bikes. It may be possible using geofencing to put speed limiters on e-bikes and scooters. However, it was acknowledged in the meeting that there are problems but clearly an intention to massively expand Lime anyway. They are dangling large amounts of money to the Council to fund cycling infrastructure.
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Traffic decreases in an LTN, no shit Sherlock!
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Interesting. Lime did a presentation and Q&A at the July Environment Scrutiny session. Frustratingly no sound for first half but second half worth a listen. They would like a Lime bay on every street. Not sure how this works.
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"And, as TFL has stated in relation to Croxted Road, conjestion and bus delays are being caused by displacement from the LTNs - I presume you aren't supportive of lobbying to have LTNs removed...of course not because in the blinkered world of pro-LTN lobbyists the prviate car is the sole reason for every problem there is......? This!
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Perhaps my eyes are deceiving me, but it seems on that map that the majority of residential streets in Dulwich Village are light blue ( a 2 ) and the rest purple, yes? When Rockets referred to Dulwich I assumed they meant the Village. I always refer to East Dulwich as East Dulwich or ED. Again, if I have misinterpreted another post, I am sure they will correct. All said though, the scoring is pretty crude; I see that TJ Centre scores both a 3 and a 4:) 'Score well' is also a bit ho hum. The best overall score for ED is 4, so we are not in the realms of excellent services. The colour coded map is very clear as a comparison to those parts of London, all in shades of red, that have great public transport.
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Are you saying PTAL scores in Dulwich Village are not what is on the map ie about as low as you can get?
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I've just looked at the link provided by DKHB, and it has Dulwich Village marked up on the map in shades of purple and light blue, so scores of 1a, 1b and 2, at best? Lordship Lane in East Dulwich (towards Goose Green and Dog Kennel Hill, scores much higher). But seems Dulwich Village, home of Dulwich Square, has scores about as low as you can get? If I have misread or misunderstood, happy to be corrected.
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GALA Festival 2024 Stakeholder Debrief
first mate replied to fishboy's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Thank you for going. I could not attend. About the tree cutting: was there an explanation as to who had authorised it? I think a lot of people complained while the event was on. I wonder if those complaints were included? I know of someone who complained at the time and gave contact details. They were not invited to the feedback event at Peckham Levels. -
You frame the discussions as tedious, yet keep participating? You cannot just make a problem disappear because people disagree and you'd prefer they did not. People will keep on questioning when what they see happening contradicts the preferred narrative. I'd prefer 'smarter' spending by our Labour council. I am sure we can all think of much better ways of spending the £5 million they are currently chucking at their vanity project, Dulwich Sq. No doubt the developers of the brand new private luxury housing, adjacent to the square, were over the moon to be gifted their very own special car free zone to complement their gated community. I bet that sent valuations soaring.
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For those with care responsibilities it may well be a "tipping point" but not in the way you suggest. Where care responsibilities come into play I do think there can be other priorities. 'Smarter' choices does sound patronising and smug, given the context. In terms of other posts on CPZ etc..; it is really not for you to try to censor or shut down opinions. If you don't like it then desist and don't comment.
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Oh my, an informal carer's permit is £155. Let's penalise family and friends visiting to care for their relatives and mates. Also unbelievable that Southwark Labour will penalise ordinary residents to have people care for them while they merrily shell out £5 million for a totally unnecessary created social space, in one of the wealthiest parts of the borough.
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So Dulwich Park and its cafe, Belair Park and its restaurant, the large cafe and restaurant in the extensive Dulwich Picture Gallery grounds, plus the Greyhound pub and its very large gardens, the many cafes with extensive outdoor seating, are not enough for people to safely connect, socialise and play?
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It occurs that the very large development on the old garage site will possibly have gained considerably by having a once busy junction transformed into a car free zone. There may be no connection at all, but...
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Given the huge amounts of smoke these can give off (according to design) perhaps it is time for us all to consider giving up BBQs, just as many of us will have to reconsider the wisdom of running wood burners. On a very hot day, BBQ smoke is especially anti social and for anyone with breathing issues I'd imagine presents a serious risk.
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