Maximay

Talking of resurrecting threads.... The BNP only need to improve their share of the vote by 0.2% to have the required 5% needed to gain a seat on the Assembly, maybe more people that you think actually vote for them

My reply was aimed at KK, as sarcasm, saying one thing and then backtracking when it got a bit too hot in there!

Actually think I'll do a KalamityKel backtrack on this one, here goes:- I said there was nothing wrong with the BNP, although I don't remember actually saying I supported them, I said I would support whoever the hell I wished, I didn't actually say it was the BNP, there, is that better?

Put a sock in it Lizzy! I will support whoever the hell I wish to

I stand with KK on this one

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Erm...excuse me Ms Dizzy, but I think you need to get your facts right! Nothing wrong with the BNP

I think the ladies on the other thread are trying to give you a run for your money! I wouldn't throw Zeta Jones out of the sack in a hurry, in fact, I would'nt throw her out at all, especially in Zorro, though have to say am partial to Marge Simpson, something about the blue hair does it for me or is it the voice?

Moos I definitely have to say I agree with you where the behaviour of different types of grandparents are concerned, it does depend on how much involvement they have in the upbringing of their grandchildren. Snorky you are to be commended, I would do exactly the same, and have done so, i.e. picking up a little 'un in the park who had just fallen over and grazed his knee, (mother on mobile chatting and didn't see it as child (about 2yrs) was walking behind her!!),although sometimes being that much older, you do get some very weird reactions and some not very nice ones from parents with barely a thank you as you are often deemed dodgy yourself to say the least.

I have to say though I did pick up quite a few tips off the Nanny programme , (the one with the young woman with the dark hair and glasses who looks more like a secretary), with regards to behaviour and bedtime routines and I have been trying to really reward and give praise for good behaviour and have been trying really hard to ignore and not overly react to naughty behaviour, we have a star chart, it has been up for a week and it has yet to have more than two stars on it but we are getting there.

Very good point Gerry. I think sometimes grandparents don't often help though, especially in times of discipline or boundary setting as they can often undermine their own adult children in front of the grandchildren by contradicting them or the rules set by them or used by them as parents in an attempt to spoil them, I have seen this on many an occasion. I believe that the grandparents should back the parent, and then the child will have no delusions or confusion as to where they stand and what is expected of them. Its a lot harder though when the other situation arises, I have both my grandchildren living with me now and they had hardly any boundaries where either parent was concerned, trying to discipline them now and set reasonable rules and boundaries for them now has been an uphill struggle, even basic things like not helping yourself to treats from the cupboard without asking permission first, (usually multiple bags of crisps at a time) the only thing is, it does make me feel like an utter ogre at times, and I do find myself sometimes giving in just to keep the peace and not to appear too mean, I often find myself overcompensating for their parents not being around, then getting cross with myself. Parenting is difficult enough when you are young and at the best of times, its so much harder when all the rules have changed and you are ancient!

I have to say a similar thing happened to me with Barclays and I have to agree, the service you receive and the length of time they take to refund stolen monies is simply attrocious (they actually have to investigate (albeit very veiled) whether or not there has in fact been time for you to have dashed to Morocco and had a wild spending spree too, although they won't tell you this! Make sure that you ask that they also cover and make provision for any interest accrued while awaiting the refund, that usually speeds them up.

...I was being nice, actually making progress at it, but point taken kalamity

Thank you for being so understanding, I don't think I actually deserve it, (the understanding-ness not the leopard skin frock I might add! you can send that to me in the post)

What? because I said kids instead of saying grandkids never getting anything off their dad for xmas eva? Ok, make of it what you will. If that does indeed make me a woman, you'd better send round a frock then for me!

Well, sorry to say you are wrong on that score Chav, but whatever floats your boat....I do have to admit though I have since taken a very honest look through my posts and I have kind of waged a very unfair one man war against a lot of what you have said, posted and stood for, I think a lot of it is to do with your involvement in the drugs industry, (which my son was fatally involved with) and things relating to that way of life, and even though you did say you were sorry and regretted your involvement in it all, it didn't feel sincere somehow and I felt that you were basically sticking your fingers up at society in general by minimalising it all and whilst I do not blame you personally for anything or everything that goes on to do with drugs, I kind of homed in on it, I have a lot of the anger and nowhere to vent it. I do not know you personally, though many people on here have said, through knowing you personally, that you are in fact a nice person, if I am being honest, the annonymity of this internet forum has allowed me to an extent, (not necessarily correctly), take out my anger and frustrations on possibly underserving people, and whilst I am not condoning my behaviour, picture that painting by Munch, "the scream" and thats exactly how I feel sometimes, maybe its best if when I am feeling like that and I am feeling that low, its not a good idea to come onto the forum.

The effects of alcohol are just as bad as drugs, I'm just trying to say why stop at giving away your excess booze to these poor ba*#strds, why not give druggies your excess drugs too! druggies lie, cheat steal the same way but you wouldn't go giving them drugs just because you had excess at home. Drug addicts also become ratty and cold turkey isn't very nice in either scenario, but morally not sure I agree with this one.

Hey, I've just had an idea, I've got some left over smack in the cupboard from a few years back, there are a few junkies up the park there, do you reckon they would really appreciate it if I went in and dropped it in on them? yeah why not, lets just add to their voluntary suffering/self-abuse eh, after all they're bound to get it from somewhere else anyway, erm....so I may as well go and help them along their way.....well thats helping out society......

david_carnell Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Because it doesn't say anything...if you want to > post at least make it sensible and reasoned rather > than ranting and raving. It's not his/her opinion > I necessarily disagree with just the method. Its a forum for crying out loud! you don't have to objectively decipher and analyse everything you post/read on here, you are allowed to just rant (as a lot of people do) sometimes, and he/she should'nt be chastised for doing so.

Erm... am I in the right place? I could have sworn this was a public forum where people were entitled to voice "their own opinions" which obviously fish is obviously doing, if his opinion upset you that much why bother posting? let alone reading it.

ChavWivaLawDegree Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm a single parent, but even when I was married I > was still a single parent so the only difference > is that I just have more room in my wardrobe and a > babysitter every second weekend! Could swear in earlier posts you went "away" away for 2 years, were you married at the time? Or did you foster your kids out? not nit picking just curious, as a father myself get fed up with the one sided pictures a lot of single (particularly female) parents paint of absent fathers

Unfortunately Labour, Conservative all of the parties out there are all as bad as eachother, and flawed, not one of them decent enough to be able to run this country properly and get it back on its feet, a serious downward spiral is all I can see now, God help our kids and grandkids is all I can say, because if you think its bad now, just wait til they get older, what the hell do they have to look forward to!

Have to say that I agree with Lizzy on this one, the hypocrisy on this forum is a joke, and well argued too you had some good points.

Just for the record, John Wayne was a racist who belonged to the NRA, (formerly the Klu Klux Klan now touting legally as the National Rifle Association) in America.

My apologies, I thought you were being sarky and I was being overly defensive. Seems I should stay off the forum when I am feeling depressed, I seem to take it out on people a lot on here, purely because I can. My grandchildren have now been abandoned by their mother and left with me as their mother has decided to run off with her new partner. So not only do I have to console them in relation to the loss of their father when he died, I have to now explain what happened to their mummy, heartless B**** is all I can think of to say about her, and I don't know what I am going to do to help my grandchildren come to terms with all this except try be there for them. Apologies to anyone I have offended when I have very deliberately come on to cause offence sometimes, been rude or posted unkind things, I will be posting no more. Max