Maximay

Talking of resurrecting threads.... The BNP only need to improve their share of the vote by 0.2% to have the required 5% needed to gain a seat on the Assembly, maybe more people that you think actually vote for them

My reply was aimed at KK, as sarcasm, saying one thing and then backtracking when it got a bit too hot in there!

Actually think I'll do a KalamityKel backtrack on this one, here goes:- I said there was nothing wrong with the BNP, although I don't remember actually saying I supported them, I said I would support whoever the hell I wished, I didn't actually say it was the BNP, there, is that better?

Put a sock in it Lizzy! I will support whoever the hell I wish to

I stand with KK on this one

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Erm...excuse me Ms Dizzy, but I think you need to get your facts right! Nothing wrong with the BNP

I think the ladies on the other thread are trying to give you a run for your money! I wouldn't throw Zeta Jones out of the sack in a hurry, in fact, I would'nt throw her out at all, especially in Zorro, though have to say am partial to Marge Simpson, something about the blue hair does it for me or is it the voice?

Moos I definitely have to say I agree with you where the behaviour of different types of grandparents are concerned, it does depend on how much involvement they have in the upbringing of their grandchildren. Snorky you are to be commended, I would do exactly the same, and have done so, i.e. picking up a little 'un in the park who had just fallen over and grazed his knee, (mother on mobile chatting and didn't see it as child (about 2yrs) was walking behind her!!),although sometimes being that much older, you do get some very weird reactions and some not very nice ones from parents with barely a thank you as you are often deemed dodgy yourself to say the least.

I have to say though I did pick up quite a few tips off the Nanny programme , (the one with the young woman with the dark hair and glasses who looks more like a secretary), with regards to behaviour and bedtime routines and I have been trying to really reward and give praise for good behaviour and have been trying really hard to ignore and not overly react to naughty behaviour, we have a star chart, it has been up for a week and it has yet to have more than two stars on it but we are getting there.

Very good point Gerry. I think sometimes grandparents don't often help though, especially in times of discipline or boundary setting as they can often undermine their own adult children in front of the grandchildren by contradicting them or the rules set by them or used by them as parents in an attempt to spoil them, I have seen this on many an occasion. I believe that the grandparents should back the parent, and then the child will have no delusions or confusion as to where they stand and what is expected of them. Its a lot harder though when the other situation arises, I have both my grandchildren living with me now and they had hardly any boundaries where either parent was concerned, trying to discipline them now and set reasonable rules and boundaries for them now has been an uphill struggle, even basic things like not helping yourself to treats from the cupboard without asking permission first, (usually multiple bags of crisps at a time) the only thing is, it does make me feel like an utter ogre at times, and I do find myself sometimes giving in just to keep the peace and not to appear too mean, I often find myself overcompensating for their parents not being around, then getting cross with myself. Parenting is difficult enough when you are young and at the best of times, its so much harder when all the rules have changed and you are ancient!

I have to say a similar thing happened to me with Barclays and I have to agree, the service you receive and the length of time they take to refund stolen monies is simply attrocious (they actually have to investigate (albeit very veiled) whether or not there has in fact been time for you to have dashed to Morocco and had a wild spending spree too, although they won't tell you this! Make sure that you ask that they also cover and make provision for any interest accrued while awaiting the refund, that usually speeds them up.

...I was being nice, actually making progress at it, but point taken kalamity

Thank you for being so understanding, I don't think I actually deserve it, (the understanding-ness not the leopard skin frock I might add! you can send that to me in the post)

What? because I said kids instead of saying grandkids never getting anything off their dad for xmas eva? Ok, make of it what you will. If that does indeed make me a woman, you'd better send round a frock then for me!