georgegarrett

Lets all play bullet points. + The pension arrangements for Nick Clegg , Dannny Alexander and Michael Gove are as follows. The Member will normally receive a pension of either 1/40th or 1/50th of their final pensionable salary for each year of pensionable service depending on the contribution rate they will have chosen. Members who make contributions of 10% of their salary gain an accrual rate of 1/40th.[11] An MP who has served 26 years and retiring today could look forward to receiving an annual inflation-proof payout of ?40,000 from their pension. State contributions for British Members of Parliament are more than four times higher than the average paid out by companies for final-salary schemes, and are slightly more generous than most public sector pensions. + A report by Britain's independent financial watchdog the National Audit Office found that public sector pensions were affordable -- projected to be about 1.7 percent of GDP by 2059/60, and that changes under the last Labour government to increase the pension age for new staff and to raise contributions also reduced the burden on the taxpayer. + The proposed changes therefore are not about the cost of public sector pensions to the Treasury. Instead they argue that the changes will allow the government to cut the budget deficit, currently running at about 10 percent of GDP, with the result that public sector workers foot the bill for a financial crisis they did not cause.

What a load of bore from Loz n Mockney ! jumping up and down like little children yapping about trolls and goblins, same old same....question is so what. Pop yourselves down to the Maudsley and get a couple of shots, as your secret hero once said, "calm down dears, calm down' Personally I though Sagatel was good value for money, I see our local politician is as silent as Milliband over this strike, why on earth this got moved out of the 'related to ED forum' i will never know.....does the chair care to explain? Anyway whatever Mamora 'man mountain' states naked in socks and swerving some of the more negative facts, here are just some of the people that disagree with you pet. Teachers, lecturers, education managers and support staff , Lecturers and other university and college staff, Head teachers and leaders at other education establishments, Court and job centre staff, border, customs and immigration officers, air traffic controllers and police support staff - among others, Local authority staff, NHS employees, police service workers, colleges and school staff - among others..... So captain, Unison et all are coming for you, Helo's above and we'll drop a couple of old hedgehog's over the side for good measure. "we can't afford decent public service pensions but we want to give you all shares in a bank" !

I also like to make clear that I have no reason to lie and I feel there were attempts by a small minority to force me off the forum Yes your right UDT. Its the usual suspects who over excitedly took over a local forum, politicised it with James Barber , and are now attempting to turn it into their online version of Brussels. I notice Sagal has gone....and his crime? Maybe he upset the little prefects , Loz, ????, Mockney, Mamora et all - centre right, and liberal right, a clear coalition intent on ruining a public forum because they want to excercise control and censorship. Do they have the backbone to charge ? doubtful as they would be left in a little circle doing god knows what, just where they were before EDF was born ! So again are the liberals broken.....dust my friends, dust.

Well for where i am sitting, the only people spouting seem to be coming from you liberal appologists. How pompous must you be to claim that Some basic, and relatively minor, changes to their pension scheme have been proposed...... Utterly ridiculous drivel. A teacher age 50 loses 8grand a year, so imagine how much more it costs someone just starting out. How on earth are people like you given access to a keyboard lord only knows. The hutton report is still under consultation , so how provocative is it to level 3% increase now onto those paying into the pension scheme now. Get real please. Who cares really if you were a public sector employee, what tosh. you are clearly losing your argument and now clutching at very flimsy straws. Obviously 8grand to you is nothing, just manicure money. Funny that the sagatel fellow seems to have been deactivated and on strike day ! Did James Barber call an emergency meeting and get his little submarine commander to complain that their EDF propaganda machine was in meltdown because a few agitators ! What a shame. And Bob if you disagree and have sypmpathy open your gob and say something. Sagatel is not leading any charge, there are a million others doing that, including civilian staff at the metropolitan police. He/She ,was/is just making a few statements on a backwater forum. He is definately right about one thing, this liberal pastiche of a coalition is absolutely done for as are all those who sailed in it....eh James?