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Oh, but just think of their overheads. There's the unemployed person at the coffee bar for a start.

It seems to me that this place is suprisingly low profile. It would be easy to walk past and not realise it's a gym at all - the esph sign (or whatever it is) on the side wall looks more like a building notice posted by an architect. Was there some restriction that prevented them from putting the word "Gym" or some such in big letters? Compare it with F*xtons, which so garishly screams its name at the other end of the strip.

> > That wouldn't really prevent the growing nuisance > of estate agents' cars though. Estate agents would be a special case. You'd just clamp their cars and string up the owners regardless of the time of day.

alachlan Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Worse than the Foxtons cars are the "tourists" > that clog up the local roads during the day when > they drive in to use the station. Surely this is a > good argument for permits - not small zones but > just a permit for the area. I'm not generally a fan of permits, but I quite like schemes where permits are only needed between, say, 11am and 11.30am, which locals can work around while commuter tourists are completely stuffed.

One difference between a shopper's car and a Foxtons car is that a shopper's car might visit for an hour and then disappear, to be replaced by a different shopper, whereas the same Foxton cars keep coming back every hour, every day. So one might say that Foxtons cars are 'greedy' visitors, whereas shoppers share their spaces with others. What if Foxtons had instead been a different business employing the same number of people? Wouldn't it have brought in just as many employee cars to the area? I think the answer is no - I reckon many of the employees would have travelled by public transport rather than parked. Why? Because in most jobs you get to the office at 9am and don't leave until 5pm (say). Estate agents are unusual as retailers in that staff use the office as a base and then make lots of trips out in the car during the day. Sean said: > if Foxtons's cars were there all day, would > any houses/flats be sold by them??? As an aside, has Foxtons actually sold any houses/flats? I ask because East Dulwich is filled with Foxtons signs saying 'SALE' but I've yet to see one that said 'SOLD' or even 'UNDER OFFER'. You'd think if they had sold any, they'd be making a lot of noise about it.

------------------------------------------------------- > nb .er the white stuff graffiti was um printed > .....by them it was their own ironic marketing The pseudo graffiti 'neighborhood' was indeed put up by White Stuff, but the little U scrawled in biro above it was by a local.

I wonder if any Foxtons employees are reading this thread. They seem to have plenty of time on their hands. Every time I walk past, I see a handful of young thrusters gazing at video screens and stifling yawns. And who would want to be the barman at Foxtons? zzzzzzzzzz

> ........ when the graffiti is spelt correctly, and > the signs telling people to not do graffiti are > also spelt correctly. Remember "There goes the neighborhood" on the White Stuff hoarding? Some educated graffiti artist inserted a U.

> By the way, where and what is "Cheers" -- I've > lived in the area on and off for ten years and I > have no idea what people are talking about! Cheers is an anonymous looking general grocery store/off licence in the range of shops that has the new Mrs Robinson Boutique. It opens late and always has friendly service, even with the departure of one of the guys a few months back. Dulwich DIY is the small store run by an Indian family opposite F*xtons, and like Mark I've never experienced any "fat bloke" nor any bad service. They're the sort of shop where you can buy one screw and they don't resent it.

I was in the pub the other day and spotted a group playing scrabble. They might have been EDF people but I can't be sure. When I looked, I think the board was like this: I N D E P E N D A N T .......E....................E C A F E N E R O.....I .......I...........A........G .......N...........Y........H .......A...........L........B .......T........M O X T O N S .......E...........N........R ..............................H ..............................O ..............................O ..............................D Can anyone tell me how the board finished?

When people say "No, I live in East Dulwich, not Dulwich."

Frisco Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "Dulwich DIY" > > I've never felt comfortable in this shop; > especially since the woman who I assume to be the > owner was rude to me when telling me that they > didn't stock something I was looking for. Give me > Terry's DIY for service any day. I've never received anything but courtesy and helpfulness from Dulwich DIY, for 15 years+. They are one of my favourites on Lordship Lane, along with Cheers and A.J.Farmer.

macroban Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I really do think that Tintagel Gardens is the > shortest street in East Dulwich. I'm with macroban on this one, only four houses. Almost bought a house there once, but they were asking ?95k which seemed a bit high. Sigh.

Breton - black kitten spotted alone on the roof of a shed in the back garden of 172 Lordship Lane at 11.30 today. Didn't see mother or any other kittens so it's not clear if this is one of the stray litter or is unrelated and has a home. Several b&w cats (mainly white)seem to cluster around the gardens of 162/164 Lordship, so it might be that the mother and kittens hangs out there.

The Elephant Man. David Lynch's finest work.

JoeChuff Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Muttley Wrote: > If another > > stationer moves in, it will probably be a chain. > > > Goodbye Ralon, hello Rymans? I hope not. > > I find this attitude a trifle confusing. I'm > definitely pro-local trader, anti-chain if the > local trader is offering something extra that a > chain can't - even if that is just a unique > atmosphere. But when it comes to buying paper, I > am really quite happy with bland uniformity - in > fact it's kind of what one looks for in > stationary! If they are selling a generic product > with terrible service, let them fold. Why would I prefer Ralon to Rymans? Not so much the products on offer, more the fact that it's independent trader versus part of a chain. The trouble I have with chains is that the people running a branch are answerable to management who have no emotional ties to East Dulwich or its community. I like the fact that the person running a shop is in it for the long run, not some trainee who's here today, gone to Clapham branch tomorrow.

TJS, if that really is Ralon up for sale (it says 'full vacant possession on completion') then regardless of the uncomfortable service, this would be another worrying trend in the transformation of Lordship Lane from 'useful' everyday shops towards nick-nackery. If another stationer moves in, it will probably be a chain. Goodbye Ralon, hello Rymans? I hope not.

I was in the Magdala a couple of months ago and they were showing the cricket, England v India one day match. It was a day-night match with a thrilling finale (Broad and Bopara fighting back to win for England). Of perhaps ten people in the pub, all but a couple were glued to the cricket, including two of the bar staff. But they weren't prepared to turn down the music and put on the commentary for the final five minutes despite the obvious interest in it. There are times when having the commentary turned up are appropriate, and that was one.

> Someone recently said that the empty newsagents > had major structural problems, meaning that it's > not currently viable... I think it was karter who said this. He seems to have been very quiet of late.

Recently got a quote from The Halifax, was about one third of the other quote that I got.

Apparently they're opening in a week or so. Still no news on what will become of the former tyre shop. (The Mrs Robinson people are only taking the Jerk Rock shop)

John Emburey of Peckham went on to represent England in at least one (cricket) world cup. For a while he played for Tulse Hill (the ground near The Harvester).

Kittens and mother(black and white) were last spotted on Friday, having been around all week. I suppose it's possible they were "dealt with" over the weekend. There are no open alleys, so it is unlikely that they've moved area unless they were allowed through a house. If there are any new sightings I'll update this thread.

Thanks Vik, will try that number.

"The trouble with a kitten's that One day it turns into a cat" (Ogden Nash) For years there have been stray cats in the land enclosed by Colwell Road and Lordship Lane. For a while, they were producing litters of kittens every year, then all the cats were spayed (or so we thought). But now five more kittens have arrived. All very cute, but unless they are dealt with, the cat problem will escalate. Why do I call it a problem? 1.There are already five or six strays living around the gardens, and they cr*p indiscriminately across the area, often not burying the evidence, bad news for those with young children. Cat-lovers rarely think about the misery these animals can cause for catless neighbours. 2.They chase (and catch) birds. The robins and other birds that used to nest around here all seem to have disappeared. I regard that as a mini-tragedy. 3. The cats depend on residents to feed them, at times they look very hungry. If anyone would like a kitten, or is able to help remove the kittens and spay the mother responsible, your help gratefully received. The kittens are black and cute, but be warned, they will turn into cats one day.