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'Townies don't care how it got to the table but they do like dictating to the shires.' I think this is unfair. Taking an animal to slaughter for food is not on the same par as chasing a fox to it's death of being ripped apart by dogs.....that's what most people rightly find so disgusting. Similarly, abortion comes within stict regulations. There is good scientific evidence for shaping those regulations. Fetuses are not torn apart. To compare the two is nonsense. How about we legalise the chasing of a small child by a pack of dogs before tearing it apart, if you really want to compare like for like. Edited to add; This thread is about fox hunting specifically. Justifying the cruelty of this sport by comparison to other perceived levels of crulety is neither here nor there. Just because regulated abortion is legal doesn;t mean we should tolerate obscene cruelty elsewhere.

Agreed.

Yakult would be fine (same thing as the yoghurt). Give it a go and don't hesitate to go back to your doctor if it continues. If your appetite is low, then I recommend making some home-made soups. You need to get some nutrients into your body and soup can be drunk or eaten in small amounts. I hope you start to feel better soon.

I don't think Labour really think that. I think the worry is more along the lines of pensioners costing the state more. We already have a situation where half of welfare spending is on the over 65s (whether they paid into a pension or not). In the future we will have a bigger problem with a higher percentage having never taken out a private pension or or been part of an organised scheme at all. The pension model just doesn't work anymore. And it's a dilemma all governments across Europe are facing. How do you support a growing and longer living aging population, when the workforce can't pay for it?

Maybe you've got some kind of digestive enzyme inbalance going on? You could try taking beneficial bacteria (can be bought as pills from health food shops) or maybe try eating some probiotic yoghurt daily, just to give the good bacteria in your stomach a boost. If there's something viral going on, the antibiotics should clear that up. I would give beneficial bacteria a go. It won't make anything worse, but might help.

I'd never eat that stuff.

lol Steveo...you just might. I think you'll find that those most opposed, are also fighting for better treatment of animals accross the whole spectrum. People are not silent regarding Halal or Kosher either but what it is true to say is that most people have no idea what goes on in slaughterhouses and just in the practise of meat production across the board. Is Halal any more brutal that stunning a pig and boiling it whilst still alive? But most of us are invested in consuming meat, so a collective outrage doesn't happen. Hunting is a simple way of illustrating cruelty. Food production and slaughter houses are not (in spite of the efforts of animal welfare groups to get images out there). And I would also say that the arrogance of the countryside alliance in defending it's interests on this one have never done it any favours. Have a look at this for an illustration of how little these people view animal cruelty and the law. http://huntingact.org/?q=node/18 When I read...... 'A fox had taken refuge in a stack of hay bales and attempts were made to flush out the fox using terriers. Eventually after about 25 minutes the fox was flushed out into the open but was soon brought down and torn apart by the waiting pack of hounds. Holt used his hunting horn to blow the traditional call for a kill and then picked up the dead fox so the hounds could attack and 'rag' the carcass.' .....there really is no comparison to food production there. It's just entrenched cultural animal cruelty. They are no better than the low lives that fight dogs at the other end of the class spectrum. Ultimately we don't chase animals to within an inch of their life before slaughtering them for food any more than we should be doing that for sport in the countryside. There are humane ways to control wildlife. Hunting with dogs and horses isn't one of them

YW Fox. These people can't be allowed to get away with it. 280 convictions under the hunting act since it was introduced in 2004 - tells you everything you need to know about what little regard these people have for the law anyway. Truly shameful.

I've known a few people who grew up in a culture of fox hunting and they really do not understand what the fuss is about. Forget any notion of pest control (their favourite defense), all of these people see fox hunting as a jolly good day out and nothing more. It's baffling. Why do they cling on to it? Because the landed gentry have always failed to see why anyone should be able to tell them what to do. What's clear from the proposed ammendment is that they think chasing a fox with ten hounds as opposed to two, as long as you chase it onto a gun is acceptable (like they whey will be able to control a pack of hounds if it gets to the fox before the fox reaches the gun anyway). It makes me so angry that the government is even entertaining an ammendment. Edited to add that I like most people. had thought hunting a fox with ANY hounds was outlawed. I am really suprised to see that it is allowed with two even.

Thanks for the link DFox. Truly devious attempt to bring back something that was rightfully banned.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-20/madeleine-mccann-police-seek-lone-sex-attacker/5332882 Two of the incidents happened in the same resort the McCanns stayed at and there was no sign of forced entry in most of the incidents either. Catching that guy should have been a major aim of the Portuguese Police from the first incident, let alone five sexual assualts down the line. I think the problem has always been with the (now disgraced) officer in charge at the time. He had a theory and was determined to stick with it no matter what. That kind of policing always leads to problems. You only have to look at the murder of Meridith Kercher for a case in point of that. It's all very tragic.

There's no cheap way, but using exisiting fossil fuel energies to build plants that provide an alternative over their life time to fossil fuels has to be a good starting point. What we can't do, is stick with coal, gas and oil burning energy plants. Nuclear power is a workable alternative to those things.

Why not write to the council citing FOI? Seems pointless asking for councillor responses in a public forum.

Not only that Louisa, but the type of chiken they use is fast growing and has more fat content than protein. After slaughter, it then has to be bleached to rid it of batteria from the feaces and urine it has had to live in. How can any of that be healthy? And you are quite right. Chunky chips from cut potatoes are full of vitamin c. Fish is full of protein and Omega oils. Fries are reprocessed and reshaped mash. Basically you get what you pay for. Nasty chicken and fries for ?3, or healthier fish and chips for ?6.

Fish is healthier than chicken and anything is healthier than the kind of chicken you find in fast food shops. I agree with Louisa here. The explosion of cheap chicken shops is not a good thing. Go and see how the chickens they use are produced. You'll never set foot in one again.

It's way cheaper than wind, solar and tidal production, and yet we are investing billions into those things. And nuclear is cost comparative to other energy except where there is direct access to cheap fossil fuels. The main difference is in the cost of building nuclear power plants compared to coal and gas plants, but it's still econimically a better option than wind turbines and other renewables over the long term. If we can find 42bn for a rail link when the country is being held to ransom on the price of energy, then you have to ask if this government has it's priorities right? One of the biggest failings was to privatise energy companies. We are all paying for it now.

Aren't there rules about food on public transport? Why are they not being enforced? It's like litter louts. I once challenged a guy who dropped rubbish and yet was only two feet away from a bin. I got a mouthful. But worse, he only lived a few doors away! But what can be done about it?

I watched Crimewatch last night and was particularly astonished by the similar incidents that had been reported from nearby towns. All I can see is Portuguese Police incompetance.

I love that episode of the Simpsons! But seriously, for the projected cost of HS2, we could build ten modern nuclear power plants, and third generation plants automatically shut down in the event of a problem or human error (so a Chernobyl couldn't happen). Given how much fuel we import and how much we pay for energy, I think ten nationalised power stations would be a much better spend of 42bn of tax payers money. The power stations only take around five years to build as well - but throw in all the alarmist anti-nuclear legal challenges and it could take 15 years.

It does work, but the issue is quantity (ie all the waste produced by the homes of Sheffield won't produce enough hydrogen to power all the homes of Sheffield). It's the same with renewables like solar, wind and tidal. They don't constantly generate electricity (no wind, sunlight or tide). So they are never going to be the solution to fossil fuels. We already do have a solution in nuclear power. France has the cheapest energy prices in Europe and generates 80% of it's energy from nuclear power. It sells energy to the rest of europe. Todays third generation power stations have a lifespan of around 70 -100 years and fourth generation stations are being designed that will be able to recycle plutonium waste. America also buy Russian warheads and recyle those in their power stations. And just on the issue of waste. There's been a lot of nonsense created by the ant-nuclear lobby. Nuclear power is one of the cleanest energy forms out there. if you were to take all of the waste ever created from every nuclear power station in the USA since construction, it would only fill a football pitch to a height of three meters, and of that only 3% is hot plutonium (ie would still be hot in 1000 years). America stores it's waste in seal containers above ground. France in tubes in the floor of it's stations. And of course, all of this can be reused with the next generation stations. Compare that to the particulates of fossil fuels that have killed people for decades. China are experiencing the same smog western cities did in the past. It's a no brainer to me.

But Hydrogen from bacterial power plants can. It uses the bacteria found in all plants that makes them photosynthesize. It would take just 25,000 square kilometres of algea tanks, to displace gasoline use in the USA. That's just 10% of the area already used to grow soya. At present, the process is 1% efficient, but needs to be 10% efficient to make for a price comparable to the cheap gasoline that Americans use. So the leading area of research in biochemical hydrogen is in ways to improve efficiency. But there is no reason to assume science won't get there. The other issue of course, is that we all see fossil fuels as just energy, petrol etc. But oil is used to make pretty much everything. All plastics and rubber use vast amounts of oil. So we have to look to ways to reduce consumption of those things. Do we really need the billions of cracker toys - plastic items that have no use and no point? Thay are just a massive waste of oil.

Sorry, but you are writing nonsense AdDabs. To feel the need to avert your eyes at something as innocuous as a tree stump is bewildering!!! And to belittle any poster by saying it must be vodka that makes them find it attractive is just rude.

CGS applications ARE given due process. It really annoys me how little people know about any funding schemes. Go to your community council meetings. It's easy to find out how these things work. Stop expecting everything to come to you. At the end of the day, it's just a dead tree stump that would have been left to rot but for a local person having an idea to do something with it. Be thankful we have a local authority that gives money over for the public to spend on local projects like this. Edited to add; crossed posts with HP but we are both saying the same thing.

It was applied for under Peckham Rye ward, as that part of the park and road falls under it. So not really an ED issue anyway.

I posted on another thread today on this too. Have a look at air bnb. People rent out all kinds of spaces for visitors. There's a feedback system too. It's all legal and properly run. Just type in where you want to go, and what size accomodation you are looking for, and see what comes up. www.airbnb.co.uk