We need an independent force here to protect it ourselves but if we all joined as an SPO we would be drafted in to help incidents elsewhere whereas we want to monitor the area ourselves without the red tape of being controlled by the police authorities and government who spend their time in meetings with so called community groups.The Turkish people saved areas in N London not the police. I was a member of a group who protected farms in S Africa who could not rely on the authorities against feral looters.