thomastillingthe3rd

oh right here you go - http://sites.google.com/site/londonstreetgangs/gang-lists/south-london-gangs/peckham-boys-black-gang

Sounds like a bloody great idea, cant help but really good luck.

My Olympic tickets have arrived ! I missed out on the 100metres final, but i did get 35,000 tickets for West Ham versus Doncaster Rovers.

Err not flawed, the majority of the country pretty much thinks that the way cuts are being handled, the depth and speed, are wrong. The March represents a fraction of those who feel the same. Its the same way that complaints to your MP work, they can roughly work out from the number of objections what depth of feeling there is, you know like 70,000 wrote complaining about the BSKYB proposed take over, the government of the day have gone of to chew it over, how does the negative backlash stack up against giving Murdoch what he wants. So not sure its wrong, maybe all your friends think shutting childrens libraries and sure start centres is ok? lets say that the ED library was under threat, can you imagine? No doubt you would be outside dressed up as a book; you would probably even lob a little smoke bomb if I handed you one! Blue or Yellow your choice.

"The problem with a lot of these kids today is that they are emulating not creating " - that's a bit simplistic queen. Here's some history that gives you a better insight of what is around these kids, it leads to the 2009 shooting on Barry Road in East Dulwich, and beyond. The Peckham boys are also known as the 'Black Gang' because of their paisley Black Bandanas..... In 2003, Colin Igwe was stabbed to death outside a McDonalds on Malt Street just off the Old Kent Road. He was known to have affiliated with both the Ghetto Boys and Peckham Boys. On the night of the murder he had left his home in a hurry after receiving a phone call from a heroin addict. He became involved in an altercation with three assailants. One of those was later identified on CCTV touching Igwe on the shoulder. The DNA taken from Igwe?s clothing led detectives to 17-year-old Krik Boreland from Southwark. He was charged with murder whilst two others, cousins Corey and Dwayne Thomas also of Southwark, were convicted of manslaughter. Original Peckham Boy Eric Akinniranye, also known as Tipsy, an older to what is now the SN1 generation was shot dead in 2004. He had recently been released from Coldingley Prison, Surrey, on a temporary licence after serving three years of a ten year sentence for firearms offences. He was rammed from his motorcycle by two gunmen in a Mercedes who then chased him along Camberwell?s High Street; he was brought down with a number of shots. When he was down, the killers stood over him and fired shots to his head at point-blank range. The stolen car licence plates on the Mercedes were later dumped at Lyndhurst Grove, Peckham. Paul Smith, 41, of Thornton Heath was later charged with murder and two counts of possession of a firearm but the case was discontinued at the Old Bailey. The murder was sparked over an internal dispute amongst the Peckham Boys over money. In 2006 Jason Gayle-Bent, a relative of Ghetto Boy members Smiler, Kraver and Young Kraver, was stabbed to death by members of the Peckham Boys whilst sat outside his home in Ludwick Mews, New Cross (see Lewisham page). Following the murder the Peckham Academy and Harris Girls? Academy Schools were closed early after rumours that violence was planned between the Peckham Boys and Ghetto Boys as a result of Jason?s death. That same year Time Out magazine for London quite irresponsibly included the Peckham Boys in its top 100 list, ?Movers & Shakers?, which lists what it believes to be the most influential groups and organisations in London. Innocent Polish nurse Magda Pniewiska was shot dead a year later when rivals from Peckham and Ghetto exchanged shots in New Cross in 2007. In February 2007, Nigerian drug lord Chamberlain Igwema was shot dead in a flat on Clayton Road on the Pelican estate in Peckham. The victim was shot at point-blank range in the head, groin and stomach and left to bleed to death. The murder was witnessed by his accountant who claimed three Jamaicans who had been there to purchase drugs decided they were going to rob them. The accountant who is also Nigerian had previous drug convictions from Venezuela and Holland. When paramedics arrived they found 4kg of crack in a Hugo Boss bag, the accountant identified a Jamaican known as ?Gold Teeth? for the murder. On Boxing Day 2007 Peckham?s Dipo Seweje, 20, was shot dead after being chased through the Aylesbury estate in Walworth. His body lay undiscovered for 26-hours in a communal garden after the shooting until a resident came across it. His murder remains unsolved. The weapon used to shoot Seweje was the same one used in the murder of boxer James Oyebola in Fulham, perpetrated by gangsters from Battersea. Peckham Boy Ezekial Ojo, also known as Boogie, was gunned down a couple of weeks after innocent Ryan Bravo on Walworth Road in 2008. Originally from Lagos in Nigeria, Boogie died from gunshot wounds to the chest, the case remains unsolved. He had been accused of a triple attempted murder offence alongside Marcus Hewitt-McKenzie and Lemuel Blackman after a shooting outside Coronet Night Club in New Kent Road the previous year. The three were accused of opening fire at Vincent Slough, Simon York and Brian Oxford and of robbing York of a chain. In 2008, OC gang older Errol Davis, 24, was shot dead in the SEOne nightclub in Weston Street. Errol Davis, known as Sense, was the second OC member to have been shot dead that year. Davis, who had associates from rival area Peckham, was shot in the left side of the head in the early hours at the nightclub on the 5th of October 2008. A suspect was caught on CCTV walking towards the victim 74 seconds before the shooting and later arrested and interviewed. Giggs & Kyze SN1 - Rat-a-Tat-Tat In January 2009, the same gun used to kill Davis, a Glock self-loading 9mm pistol, was used in another shooting, the victim was Marcus Bennett. He was shot through his shoulder outside Welland House in Rye Hill Park but refused to cooperate with the police. Then in February 2009, the gun was used again to kill 25-year-old Larry Safie who was shot in the head on Barry Road, East Dulwich. Safie had recently been released from a three-and-a-half year sentence for a knife point robbery. He was gunned down in broad daylight. He had been due to meet up with a friend for a catch-up a few hours before he was killed.

What business is he involved with? Lots of them Jeremy. They have been trying to turn there SN1 brand into a business, have opened a couple of outlet stores but they have been shut down with pressure from operation trident. SN1 (spare no-one)

I think you confuse your small group of like minded friends for the "vast majority" ??? Er look at the bottom of the BBC news clip where it says 500,000. If your then going to say the 'vast' majority relates to the fact that the Conservatives won the election then again that's nonsense. You may have noticed the utter silence that greeted Theresa May at the police federation speech the other day, not sure they all voted labour, are you ? Hi Jeremy, thanks for the response and for keeping the discussion going, hands up i did say that , so i am going away to have a think why I said it and what I think I mean.

"Can we organise the Dulwich White Middle Class Gang? Armed to the teeth with rolled-up copies of the Guardian." -loz You probably can Loz as obviously in your world their ain't no black middle class. Dork.

no loz you did not , well done. If you want to discuss the burning embers of liberal morals then wonderful, if not then try to at least carve a witticism that works. Now put the gin down dear and get yourself to bed, if you have come home alone again don't vent here.

Tubgirl gonna tub

Er ? u dont like childrens jelly ......what about Pom Bears do you like those?

If you think that your seeming grasp of sentence structure leads people to believe that you are endowed with some kind of intelligence, then you are sadly mistaken? It just shows your potential to be a narrow minded snob of sorts, are you from the village ward? To talk about how the president swept into town and discussed the marvel of 16%, at a time when the vast majority of the country are seething about Nick Clegg, and disgusted with the moral u-turns the liberals have taken to gain some power, is frankly, utterly delusional.

Stick to Queen..killa.

Ah........... Mr Merridew and his Wonky conch.

mmmm Actually they are just trying to emulate someone they see as a very successful business man and musician based in Peckham. The Black gang based in peckham (name from black paisley bandana's they wear) are a long established gang based in SE15. Growing up on the same estates obviously the man they are trying to emulate, in the clip below, has some links with. look here is an interview with the Gaurdian.

Oh and as for " Ridiculous political cant has no place in this debate " There's only one "ridiculous political can't" here H, and its clearly you!

Er?? Oh my god my hands have vanished, blimey my shoes look disconnected from my ankles, and my hands where have they gone......oh hang on..........what?s that.......yes there is something still there .........what could it be........oh thank the lord its still intact...........my bloody right to an opinion and freedom of speech! Who is this moronic poster above? As for his bloody list he missed off Liberal fascist which he is 100% of. When they get called out and don't like it, they first try ridicule, offending people that are not even writing on here, then they do what all fascist's do and withdraw from the democratic process, using the mechanisms of power to their own ends, changing the way things worked to suit their own narrow minded views of the world as they see it, excluding others who don?t agree whilst all the while trying to keep their hands on the levers of power. Its Fascism whatever way you Liberally decorate it poster H, you would be bloody dangerous if they let you out in the real world, one that thank god you don't get to influence. 67.9% percent said no to your AV vote, you accused them of being mugs and sheep. Get a life. As for the Liberal Democrats are they broken? With people like the above speaking on their behalf I would now say so.

You put the air in over-inflated I am sorry to say. You can not put a reasonable argument to something so utterly delusional, put down your encyclopaedia Britannica?s they are a bit out of date to be honest. As for your rather unpleasant ADHD reference pop down to your sunshine house and spend some time with some young children with ADHD you moron. No doubt we will get an over inflated reaction to how you were merely being amusing according to some obscure journal for the witless that you have stashed away somewhere. As for James and his president, they are politicians, of a kind that the majority of this country probably have lost complete faith in. Working in the local community rarely translates to the wider world. Working selflessly for others is one thing, but working with an underlying political goal rather puts another twist to it. So are they broken? This lot running the liberal's have done some serious damage that is not going to vanish in a hurry. There was no choice but coalition so don't be deluded. It?s what their leadership has done with the 16%...that?s what 'el presidente?, on behalf of the political pygmy Clegg, is trying to blind you with. What have they done with the 16%..........serious damage that's what. They have completely shattered what now seems to be a tardy illusion of the liberals and their 'new kind of politics' ....surely a joke. Or they have re-set the party on a different moral course? If James is thinking then he knows.....his political launch pad is better served with Nick served up to the public. He knows his conservative 'friends' have served Chris Huhne up to keep their puppet Clegg at the table ......Liberal springtime coming I think.

Ah the 'El Presidente' of the 'Liberally Principled Party' , swept into the East of Dulwich stronghold on his Barclays sponsored bike, decal stickers masked with liberal yellow !!! Did he say " our 16% is in a place where they will never get it back", in the hearts of our people ! Or did he offer you a sweetner james huh James?, I can see it now a cherised photo of you pair now hanging above the Hunter wellies by your front door. Taking more of the brunt ??? as they say down bermondsey way " Dont be a muggy **** " .....your party has been taking it somewhere but the brunt aint it. Blimey he did the Jedi mind trick on you alright " My focus as Party President will be to inspire Liberal Democrat members to be proud of our party, to work their socks off for the coming electoral contests and the AV referendum, and to inspire a new generation of members and activists to believe that they can make a difference by joining us. My focus will be on campaigning in the country and in the media - making it clear what we stand for, and talking to people in a human and accessible way " the president ..i kid you not? So some questions, firstly what do you stand for? and what an earth do you mean by Northern parts.....what where they eat babies and have not heard of SNUB bags ?

is that muscular liberalism talking !

oi muppet yourself miss piggy ! You don't half waffle some nonsense. Chippy stated BA made money, the FT and the shareholders agreed, you went in with both feet like an overexcited wally trashing chippys credibility but as usual you got it wrong. BA's stock and shares rose at the time and they got a positive outlook from the city, thats how business operates wonder brain. So no confusion jeremy , that is the half year operating results from BA for 2011, with projections on how they run as a business in the next 6months, all normal. as for my original premise it is called irony , you grumpy little man. The rally was actually organised by a conservative group called the tax payers alliance, funded by tory donors. No-one turned up !! thats the irony, So hugue 'mouth almighty' not ...and his sandwich business, mines an egg salad on brown please and i'll take that for free!

What you don't seem to get is that there was no offer on the table 2years ago, that again is frankly a lie. ACAS mediated an agreement back in July , but due to the complete breakdown of trust with BA under Walsh unite felt they could only take a neutral position on it. Then it went to the members who voted and it was rejected. The 'Union' as Loz puts it, does not put a gun to the members heads , the union is its members, the members vote democratically and thats it. With Walsh gone and the leadership at unite changed the relationship has been put back on track. A very similar deal was put on the table again, this time with travel allowances and discounts re-instated, previous sackings now all put into arbitration and a promise from BA to consult the union on all proposals going forward. There was no consultation originally when Walsh proposed major non contractual changes to working conditions and staff numbers. Now this is going forward to members with a positive recommendation from the union, so we shall wait and see. And here is a nice bit of text for you, written by someone else that I thought was spot on. This is the reality of industrial relations. Nobody seeks the confrontation of the tabloid cliche ? the agreement at BA proves that. Workers do not strike at a whim or fight to save their jobs out of bloody mindedness. They do so only when they have to. For that, they need unions. The only real line of defence working people have Which is why the Bullingdon boys, from the chancellor to Boris Johnson, are having a go at them, all to make the country safe for the elite that brought us the great crash of 2008. As the demonstration on 26 March, the biggest event organised by British trade unions, showed, the country isn't ready to roll over. ......does the suggestion of a class war help, probably not, but it seems to me that it is really about fighting to protect and improve working conditions, conditions that have an impact of peoples everyday lives.

here it is oh wise sage ! Profit before tax of ?158 million (2009: loss of ?292 million) Revenue up ?345 million due to improved yields Costs down 1.5 per cent Operating profit of ?298 million (2009: loss of ?111 million) Quarter 2 operating profit of ?370 million (2009: loss of ?17 million) In short thats a A half-year profit of ?158m ($252m), its first in two years. Which means Huguenot Credibility , steady at 0 , as usual.

christ your arrogant .... why cut and paste such nonsense. half a million people mate and your AV vote down the toilet.......got it yet ? re-invetsment and growth!!!!! what an utter load of junk. i'm out.

er ....am i in an alternate reality....have i come across the legendary EDF 'moderators' of doom? You're just all waffling bloody nonsense.....your making no arguments , just drivel.