Hi to all, this is my first post and sorry to it may come across as a bit of a moan but i feel i must stand up here for my profession as 'untamedstylist' for the second time has, i believe degraded barbers and the art of cutting mens hair. Firstly untamedstylist answer to jamesm and MSB post are 100% correct, but then to Mick Macs post he states "there is a difference between a hairdresser and a barber ...clippers being the obvious...but if you want a simple short back and sides, a flat top or an all over grade, or indeed a skin fade a barbers is your best bet." Mick Mac recommended us and this was your reply. You seem to imply barbers can only use clippers and just do short back and sides and more so Barry Road Barbers as you directly answered Mick Macs recomendation. You also make it sound like that any man who goes to a barbers is not fashionable. There seems no doubt your a talented hairdresser from reading this forum but you seem out of touch with modern day barbering. Yes we do short back and sides in my shop ( which is a lot more technical than a lot of womens cuts) and a lot of my clients have longer hair, and as you call them, fashion cuts. Barbers are trained in all aspects or hair lengths and styles. How dare you say hairdressers are more fashion orientated and more about layers, shape, personalisation, suitably and fashion etc etc than barbers. Barbers dont just shave hair of everyone that comes through the door, we take all of this into consideration as well, otherwise there would be no repeat cusromers which is vital to my shop as we dont rely soley on passing trade. And we do use top branded products(but untamedstylist reckons barbers use cheap muck) It sounds to me that jamesm (i may be wrong) went to a hairdressers where he/she was not happy and you have a pop at barbers, then you as a hairdresser, plug yourself at the bottom of your post, (p.s... i do mens for ?20 and come to you after 8pm) well now its my time for a plug. To all Gents and Boys out there:, Barry Road Barbers is a small shop on Barry Rd. where we pay rent, rates, taxes, wages etc Walk in at your own pleasure, sit in the comfort of a barbers chair, have a free beer, tea or coffee whilst having your hair styled. We are fully trained in all aspects of gents hair from traditional, to mordern up-to-date trends. So anyone wanting to try us i am offering 25% off our services (Tues. to Fri.)until the end of May for first time clients only. Just mention East Dulwich Forum to recieve this offer.Then no likey no come backey.