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Deansgate??? Pah - disgusting hovel of an arse frequented by flash tits. Hit the Northern Quarter, atomsphere, individuality and good banter.

I agree - if they want/need it then why not. If you are bothered donate to charity.

He only wear a pair of pants once. Which I my book makes him a legend.

Fabricio the Guido Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The issue is about the media and the way certain > stories are reported or under reported. It is > astounding that in 2011 these well established, > researched, facts, are still being disputed. It > was a simple point made by someone that the under > reporting of her disappearance may have been > connected to her ethnicity. I made the connection > between this particular case and well known > sociological facts which rendered this a > possibility. A possibility on that basis of which > I was prepared to accept it as a proposition. > > I supposed if I was of another persuasion, I > could easily have made another assumption. > > What is unbearable is the smug assumption that x > & y were the case because the girl was found, > therefore, it was not racism. The issue was about > under reproting of the girl's disappearance an d > the only reason why the amount of publicity around > the case increased was because of the highlighting > of this fact and the celebrities who attached > themselves to the case. > > In America, attitudes such as those exhibited by > members of the forum often leads to the imposition > of the death penalty. Fortunately, in Britain, we > dont have the death penalty even if we get such > "reasonable" people serving on juries. I agree with some of your points here but I think you undermine your rant hugely by saying Forum members would be racist when on jury service. Can you point me to some researched facts as I had a look for some to support my view that the media is bias but couldn't find any.

I do worry > that we're so sensitive to racism (a fear of > recognising prejudice within ourselves perhaps?) > that we cry foul at the drop of a hat. Hopefully we would agree that this is preferable states of affair to the other end of the scale, but a happy medium would be welcome.

> To start pushing the race hatred button and > driving rifts through society, to undermine the > confidence of the police, our social services and > even our members of parliament was a reaction so > extraordinarily out of proportion that we needed a > bit of balance appled. After re-reading the articule I think the above is a huge overeaction. The article quotes someone who has written on facebook that they think the police didn't prioritise this case relatively when compared with different skin colours. It also quotes the police refuting the claims it dismissed this one as a runaway and they were looking into it. It also says that Tessa Jowell is looking into the issue. So I don't see where the above has come from at all.

> To start pushing the race hatred button and > driving rifts through society, to undermine the > confidence of the police, our social services and > even our members of parliament was a reaction so > extraordinarily out of proportion that we needed a > bit of balance appled. Who do you think has done the above? I am assuming it isn't anyone on this thread. If you talking about this thread then the above is entirely disportionate to what has been said.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I see discrimination every day. I just don't see > it in everything. > > I also recognise that seeing it in everything is > displaying a prejudice and discrimination every > bit as bad as the ones that I despise. I completely agree with you. I don't see it in everything, I see it in how the media reports/prioritises these kind of events.

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > What a load of co*k. > > Try this formula: > > The level of police response will give you a very > good idea of whether the person is likely to be > found dead. > > Jo Yates = very high. > Serena Beakhurst = very low. It's easy to dismiss when the alternatives aren't palatable. You stay in your little bubble where everything is equal and there couldn't possible be any discrimination based on race or class. It wouldn't happen in this day and age would it?

Done. nice little website - well done. Good Luck

don't. nice little website - well done. Good Luck

Great news that she has been found alive and well. I've been reading into so-called "White Woman Syndrome" and there has been a host of studies on the topic which suggest that media sensationalise cases when the woman is white and or attractive and don't in the same way when they are Men, Unattractive, or Black. I found this formula in the comments box of some blog post which doesn't say much but I think it sums up the feeling of some (including me) on this topic. Stewart (2004), came up with a formula to describe the syndrome, Y (minutes of media exposure) = Family Income x (Abductee Attractiveness + Skin Color)+ (Length of Abduction x Media Savvy of Grieving Parents) I don't think you can be so dismissive that race or class have an impact in the extent to which news reports missing people. Perhaps it isn't relevant in this case, and as Hugenot points out there were very differing scenario's on offer.

hibbs Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I heard this case mentioned on the news on Capital > radio this afternoon. The point is the coverage is much less than than other cases that involve middle class white women; not that there is no mention of it at all.

Keef Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Sorry, but you're being a conspiracy theorist. Why is it a conspiracy theory..... I'd never heard of this case and I read a paper most days and look at online news for 30 mins. Compare that to the missing girl Jo Yeates who was on every front page for days. The papers liked her case because they were white middle class, they don't go for stories that don't fit that demographic.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I think it's ridiculous to assume that the police > and the press are ignoring this because they're > racist (as the article states). It is far more > likely that there is more to this than meets the > eye. I don't think it's that ridiculous. Papers will hype news items that will sell more papers; and white middle class dead or missing children will sell more than anyone else. Do you think papers and TV actually cover these things in the hope of finding the kids?

OP - suggest no holiday in Italy for you for a while. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/30/italian-shops-bin-plastic-bags

something to do with crime, health or fire

Defo celebrating. People give me free stuff and there is loads of amazing food knocking around.

Funny http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/ireland-urged-to-join-the-19th-century-201012173364/

Awesome Crimbo bash. My boss got punched in the face by a random. Very strange night.

going crazy Holborn area at the moment. big snow.

I am not suprised they are taking action. He is saying they killed their child or disposed of the body when she died accidentally. It would be pretty odd if they didn't sue given they haven't been convicted of anything. I was aware that British police were assisting the investigation at the time from the mainstream media. I seem to remember there being friction between the two parties. Don't really know what I think about the whole thing. Your listed blog is also accredited on the site as a help so I doubt it is impartial. Would like know more about the facts so will have a look into it. Sue - do you think they killed her?

Just Presitged on COD Black Ops - first time ever. Bit of an anticlimax. I now feel the pressure to perform ever greater.

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps if > you had a policy in cases like this of renting to > the customer a suitable bag for its cost price > which could be refunded next time they were in, Why should they bother - they have a policy that they stick to which supports the environmental campaign that they believe in. They have had 1 complaint in three years and other posters have said it encourages them to remember to bring an alternative.

I think the email from the Op to G&B makes him/her look like a bit of a t1t and whilst I neither agree with your bag policy or the tone of some of the email you wrote I think bravo for sticking to your guns and not acquiescing to his pointless, inflammatory email. OP - If you had a genuine issue why not just send a normal complaint.