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plants and instant ponds for spring frogs (bury the bath in a corner of the garden and you have an indestructible and beautiful feature)

Siduhe question, you want to be buried in consecrated ground and don't mind sharing or even being moved elsewhere over time and your marker being reused. Why then doesn't the more "permanent" even ethereal idea of ashes and trees appeal to you? Under a tree and you're there for hundreds of years A bench? Ashes into the ground? The reason this or even these posts are "good" is that end of life planning is given short schrift. People aren't prepared no will or plans. And the money I don't get why people are willing to spend so much on so little really. And organ donation. Sorry but I really don't get letting stuff you no longer need rot. All this is real in perpetuity to me

John K do some research as you're interested in local history http://www.spectator.co.uk/2013/06/recycled-graves-coming-soon-to-a-cemetery-near-you/ History is a slippy thing Don't stop at the first thing you find. Cross check and watch your sources of course

The point is for you to think about it which is what the people who "click" on the post are doing. If I were to put someone in a grave and have RIP chiseled on a stone I'd expect it meant RIP and In Perpetuity whether I was still around or not. What's the point otherwise. And the reason I personally care is that Cemeteries are the last urban green spaces we will ever see or our children or grandchildren etc and they, for me, are the last chance to bring wild green to where we live. And I care for a long list of reasons including climate change. Imagine taking the ?9000 spent on a grave and giving it to something the person liked clubs and culture and hospitals or a bench or a tree with their name. The council is planning to cut youth services and loads of other things. Some of the young people in some of the graves are there because of "circumstance". So the council defends the right of people to go in and out of graves like a long stay parking lot but wants to cut money that addresses the reasons some young people end up in an early grave. For me that's a problem. There's loads of in perpetuity graves 5 miles away and the cost would be negligible.

Reusing graves is a new(ish) idea. Re-using Graves? A ceremony could be anything. It doesn't have to be a fixed concept of grave. The money could go to schools and clubs and benches and endless things and have the name of someone you want remembered. Right now there is a phased roll out of Grave Destruction: Thousands of remains to be dug up at the Camberwell Cemeteries www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/grave-cemeteries-destruction The Camberwell Cemeteries are full. But instead of closing them with respect for the dead buried there, Southwark Council wants to excavate thousands of graves and fell over 10 acres of woodland to sell as new burial plots. Do you have family buried in Camberwell Old Cemetery? Is your family name on this list? Allison Bryant White Bradshaw Macdonald Stone Butler Roe Bird Scott Greig Baker Haynes Snell Webb Perry Harris Taylor Poncett Hall Collins Hossack Minahan These are the first graves to be excavated, to create an access road for JCBs and diggers to clear the first area of 2.5 acres of woodland at Camberwell Old Cemetery. If your name is on this list and have family buried there, you have until 15th March 2016 to notify the Council and object. Contact Cemeteries Manager Avril Kirby: [email protected] Contact Diocese of Southwark Registrar Paul Morris: [email protected] Contact Richard Hastings, Clerk to the Registry: [email protected] Please also contact Save Southwark Woods to let us know if you have friends or relatives buried in the Camberwell Cemeteries: [email protected] The Church of England can stop the desecration The Diocese of Southwark has the power to reject Southwark Council?s plans as it is consecrated ground. To date, more than 700 individual objections have been received by the Diocese. The Diocese of Southwark itself recently erected the Monument to the Unknown Southwark Parishioner, not at the Camberwell Cemeteries but at the new 40 acre Kemnal Park Cemetery under 5 miles away, where other Boroughs such as Tower Hamlets are investing in long-term burial land for all faiths. Southwark Council?s burial plans not only destroy history and nature, but also exclude any burial provision for Orthodox Muslim residents ? around 44% of Southwark?s burial demand, who have to pay privately for burial outside the borough. ?Southwark Council?s plans would turn the Camberwell Cemeteries into NCP Car Parks of burial,? said Save Southwark Woods spokesperson Blanche Cameron, ?replacing wild woods and nature with sterile burial areas as seen at the Woodvale and Honor Oak Rec extensions.? Save Southwark Woods is campaigning to preserve the graves, social history, nature and beauty of these inner city Cemeteries - and protect and rewild them as 100 acres of Nature Reserves like Nunhead Cemetery. Please contact us if you are concerned about Southwark?s plans: [email protected] Public notice in Southwark News http://www.southwarknews.co.uk/public-notices/legal-camberwell-old-cemetery/ Image is graves at Camberwell New Cemetery [email protected] www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk @southwarkwoods Facebook Page Save Southwark Woods Watch the aerial video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b76wj7BO8yI Sign the petition to save Southwark Woods https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-southwark-woods

Thanks everyone I've done more homework and this idea has been binned. Definitely not a goer

I do understand that a incense is required! To apply for one however you need to detail your operation and that's where the lack of experience stumps me a little.

Hi, I am thinking to start distilling spirits at home. Before investing in equipment I would be keen to talk with someone who has experience, so that I don't walk in blind. If anyone distills alcohol at home and is open to being asked some questions that would be very helpful, thanks.

MCMC what is completely out of control in SE22? Burglaries? The police told you this? Are the burglaries because of what? Inadequate locks?

I might have missed some detail so cut me slack but calls are given codes for prioritizing I don't think there's anything so odd or unprofessional about that. If it's a "101" call i.e. the crime is "over" then what's happened becomes part of a "bigger" picture so that other steps can be planned or something about what happened to you might solve a larger problem and lead to a larger resolution. Or if your home is marked with smart water/ met trace (which is where Southwark hopes to go) then fenced items will get your goods back and crooks caught. 101 if a burglary is OVER and the job for the police is taking details in which case they aren't going to arrive immediately but schedule a visit. Tell them if your stuff is marked so that details can go to repos for stolen goods 999 is you see them running off etc and make it clear to the responder if the burglars are still there or not

James Barber Southwark has to move to distribute marking kits across the borough I was at a MOPAC event Thursday the 10th and spoke about smart water with police lieutenant Walthamstow and it is very clear that everyone needs to have everything of value marked with smart water/ met trace same thing and then DISPLAY in window. When nicked stuff gets collected by police if it has this tracer mark it is CONFISCATED no matter what. Without the mark it can be given back to the crooks if there is any doubt in the minds of the police. Bad guys will avoid property that they think might be marked There must be a way to mark and display you've marked metal you have outside like fencing

It would be very helpful if posters could say HOW the break-in occurred. All break-ins are criminal, most are opportunistic that is quick and easy: doors and windows not closed properly. Always report the details to the police : 101 Always go to your Ward Meeting, the next one for East Dulwich is Weds February 3rd, from 6.30-8.30pm Christ Church Please say how the bad guys got in so thinking can happen as to how to stop them getting in. Start a Neighbourhood Watch on your street. I'll give you a starter pack if you PM me.

boys hit left right and centre in my primary as well

bolt doors and windows when you go out

Why not be first? Why shouldn't Southwark be the first to turn a cemetery into a breathing green lung for a planet which is in crisis. We have to stop cutting down mature trees in parkland. 200 year old trees take pause 200 years to regrow What we are trying to do in Southwark is so cutting edge the world has to be searched for precedence. Here is a tiny sample: Imagine http://www.herlandforest.org http://www.pennforestcemetery.com/tag/spiritual-transition/ http://www.beatree.com/2009/05/sustainable-cemetery-management.html http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/one-day-green-cemeteries-will-use-corpses-help-trees-grow

The HSBC 66 Lordship Lane will close on the 16th Jan 2016: FYI. I for one am very sorry.

What if we swept our own leaves and had a chat with neighbours at the same time?

A really civilised conversation. How was the AGM?

You are absolutely correct Penguin68

Please report for all the reasons above. Please!

Really great post dds29. Thanks. I'm there as well.

You may all want to go and buy the November National Geographic. It's all about trees and Climate Change. And then we can all have a collective think about priorities for the very last pieces of open space cities have. http://www.nationalgeographic.com/climate-change/special-issue/ I imagine well over half of you have children. As I do. If we don't act our children are ****ed. The choice in this thread is to gaze into the branches of a tree and remember how much you loved someone or to look at a hole in the ground surrounded by cement and think how much it cost and how the clocks ticking on your right to use the space before those bones are chucked out, the plastic geegaws shoveled away and the barren ground sprayed for weeds

Open Space left for common land and cemetery space in the 1800's was land that flooded and was useless otherwise. Camberwell Old Cemetery floods in part. It is not allowed to bury in standing water. Graves have recently been dug and filled immediately with water. I cannot imagine what edhistory might find funny about this. There is run off from Honour Oak and high points south of the cemetery and this is being handled by creaking to capacity Victoria conduits and the entire area is being monitored by Thames Water. As to graveyards more generally as we enter a time of worldwide recognition of catastrophic climate change. Yes, Catastrophic. Climate. Change. The only things that are guaranteed safe guards to global warming and scrubbing carbon in the atmosphere are trees huge mature trees. Trees scrub the air. Trees scrub the water. Trees produce oxygen. What's not to like about an enormous tree? The consultation conversations of 2011 are 4 full years ago, they are flawed. 4 years as land becomes scarcer and trees are rarer and London has been declared one of the dirtiest cities in Europe. 4 years is a long time, people's attitudes have changed: tree burials, cremation with huge pageantry short of burial. Southwark Council is not taking best scientific consultation into consideration when it is now proceeding to bulldoze and truck thousands of loads of earth out of COC. Whatever pollution and contaminates there are in this soil despicable as fly tipping and ignorant disposals are these contaminates can be capped with clay and trees, yes, trees can be planted on top and in 50 years, 100 years, maybe even 1000 years from now the tree will have provided the earth with every imaginable restorative benefit including disposing of the poison humans put in the soil. Every single choice Southwark Council has insisted on making is the highest cost non solution today and forever into the future. There is nothing cost effective about the burials or rotating graves with bodies in and bones chucked out for more bodies. The trucking of soil is nonsensical. The culling of foliage and trees is surreptitious at worst and ignorant of catastrophic climate change and it's impact within the lifetime of our children. Very few people chose burial any more and some of those who think they want it quickly change their minds when they realise the options now available. Dug revolving graves are being hyped in religious groups egged on by the need to manipulate the living by refusing to discuss respect for the dead in ways that are compatible with catastrophic climate change. COC and CNC could be glorious areas of dense trees with memorials and ash and tree burials and memory benches and ceremonies that don't end with holes and cement and fake flowers

well, Save Southwark Woods. Literally. And the oxygen trees produce for everyone http://www.savesouthwarkwoods.org.uk/benefit-gig/4590824600 please buy a ticket and please come to our event on Sunday at 19:30 at the Ivy House Space and trees won't have any value until they are cemented over and all chopped down. Then we can sell oxygen canisters

A lot of the trees planted up and down the streets some years (10 or more) back are edible as jellies and jams and chutneys. North Cross at Lordship Lane is an example: looks like tiny pears, cook them with sugar and enjoy. Everywhere tiny "apples" the same. Right now there's fruit everywhere that will rot over the next month and then the street cleaners will complain and eventually when people look elsewhere it will all be chopped down.