Hill Dweller

untamedstylist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hill dweller what did u mean? (?) I'd responded to something from someone that I thought was sarky but I'd got the sequence wrong ..... must have opened on an old cookie (or whatever it's called when you don't actually close/log out) so I took that advantage of edit, which would be so useful in real life with words :-$ As a newie myself I'm still getting used to the layout here, keep using Quote on the wrong posts as it's at the bottom of the posts, not the top or within them as I'm used to.

I do work from home and intend to take them to the cleaners. I do empathise that the snow we've had must play havoc with the underground cabling and it must be awful for the guys (usually chaps) that have to be out in all weathers at junction boxes and playing about under the pavement. What really upsets me though is the denial (from others ..... those that are presumably cosy in their offices) and the fact that we have to ask for recompense. When I got the news on 23rd that I had 4 more weeks without phone (or fax which is still very important for me) I had to demand some courtesy facility. I suggested a courtesy mobile or courtesy SIM card for my own (?15 for 300mins) .... this IS after all Xmas and NY and they must know a lot of my calls are international anyway..... the response made me wonder whether someone didn't know what day it was. I had to do a real number in their shop (given that no line means not even access to an operator or emergency services). A real one of these : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLNrLI3OBwg

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untamedstylist Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- I wonder if sitting behind the security > of a computer screen were noone really knows who u > r does things to a person.... Lol You nailed it. ByeForNow

Tarot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I believe Jesus was jewish. (sic) Yes, born Jewish as Christianity didn't exist till he assumed the name Christ. So many con tricks .... what with the earlier lie from the desert that's the root of so many present wars about land. :-$

Narnia Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I'm obviously a neighbour and don't have a > problem. Wonder what yours is? > > PS How did you post a message here? > > ETA: It's probably some form of even more modern > technology I suppose I've had no phone line for 3wks and the cable won't be repaired till Jan 18th (apparently council permission has to be organised). I do have Bb and TV :-S Neighbours on the other side of the same junction box have had no Bb while I've had no phone ..... .

Ohhhh I love how the hyperlinks edit themselves >:D< Is that a property of the forum hosts or does the forum have an IT Wiz ?

This was a very interesting listen, downloading the Beeb's iPlayer software to hear it on 'Listen Again' is safe, it should be available till 30th evening. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wqfng Assange really isn't better than those that disagree with him, thinking he is is more than a little like believing what the bloke who assumed the name Christ described himself as.

Have only caught the bit that's been reported on the news and think she gave Cam the Sham and his fag a very discreet kick in whatever they have that they might refer to as balls. .

Blimey, I read the OP and thought 'what a constructive thing to do' Late edit: so much more polite to introduce oneself than jump straight in to a discussion as I did! ...... then the out of proportion criticism starts. Typical WUM-ery OPer, don't let it get to you (don't be their too-willing victim, let them work harder for their jollies) (tu) .

This isn't the synagogue debate I meant, it's more fun :)) Some time ago so CH's illness wasn't public yet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6nYjVog4nU&feature=related .

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Whether we like it or not, 'face' is a very > important concept in some cultures. > > Whilst publicity probably saved this woman > initially, it might be wise to let this drop off > the front pages so that the option to change her > sentence can be done without losing face. > > Having said that, no-one knows the truth behind > this case, it's also possible that this woman was > behind the murder of her husband. --------------------------------------- VERY true. It seems to me that the threats towards her have become worse again since all the publicity, things seem to be almost the opposite of how they happen in the west. After all, it's over six years since she was condemned. Was it done as an example to the population of what could happen ..... with no plan of it ever doing so? The two men who actually killed her husband were pardoned under the Islamic/Sharia custom of asking a victim's relatives for forgiveness. This was granted by his children. They also apparently wished for pardon for their mother so her sentence was changed from stoning to hanging but, as we know, years have gone by. Re whether she was behind the murder; one of the killers was a lover and she was present when it happened. Just given as info I've read elsewhere. I'm in two minds or more about just who is being manipulated and this case has helped the EDL's recruitment. .

Nope, there isn't a God imhoo but I think the capital has been used to mislead people into thinking there is such a being, one for their own tribe .... vs: all those little god statues belonging to others. 'God' has been a handy 'cover' for people afraid of the sin of conceit (as in mere confidence in their abilities). 'He' and heaven have been inspiration for people needing a subject to paint or sculpt or a beautiful building to erect and receive funding for, things for the less talented to admire and not resent. 'He's also been blamed for some of the things that have gone wrong and the lack of belief in 'Him' is blamed as the very reason why baddies are baddies. I find it saddening that Tony Blair has felt the need to convert between types of Christianity, surely being Christian should be enough (if one is). He should not be afraid of claiming either the credit or the blame for all his actions (for the record, imhoo, there would be more of the former). Naturally Christopher Hitchens won the debate, it's a shame he was more cruel and dismissive than in a similar filmed debate inside a NYC synagogue on the topic of Judaism. .

Oooops, /\ that was supposed to be in response to this \/, which I seem to have edited instead of following up! ............ Re: Are the Lib Dems broken. Posted by: Hill Dweller Date: 22/12/2010 18:39 Re yours at 4.34 DJKQ smileys with beer It was never going to be a grant, I'm pretty sure that the terms were for the loan to be repaid in 3yrs ...... but I could be wrong. However, this :- ........ Regardless of the truth of the matter, which with all politically popular arguments is nearly impossible to prove either way, both sides are now sure to increase their rhetoric. .......... from this :- http://politicalpromise.co.uk/2010/06/20/was-the-sheffield-forgemaster-loan-a-labour-trap/ [politicalpromise.co.uk] just about nails things eh? angry smiley

oooooooh brill!!! Does a hyperlink get changed by some genie in to an embedding? swooon :-)

It was just pallid features doing his butch act :)) ........ Oooops, that was to DJKQ, using 'Reply to' I expected it to slot in there!

That (the small number of jobs) is exactly why it was not vote-buying. Drink some milk, it might reduce your acidity (the only explanation possible for you ignoring the commercial/economic reasons for the short-term loan). What's with the apparent incapacity to understand the difference between a short-term loan and 'funding'? What's with the apparent incapacity to understand the country will need to buy, repeatedly, this expensive component for ever more but from overseas? Like I said ..... balance of trade. Did I need to add the 'anyone?' bit?

Wannabe-butch Clegg has just announced (or anninced as Cam would pronounce it) that it's all sorted and the populace should move on and do so now ..... he wishes. When he had the cyncism, just-post election, to describe the loan (and a short-term one at that) to Forgemasters as cynical vote-buying in a marginal seat, all he exposed was his own cynicism. Forgemasters were to become one of only two makers in the whole world of a component that will have a huge market for years to come which, if they don't ever succeed in receiving the loan they need means we will have to buy from the remaining one. Balance of trade?

Hill Dweller Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Perhaps you could let the world know when the line > occurs Lou? I'm sure that the alleged crimes matters that Assange is discussing with his legal team have ramifications for international relations. The very fact that he hypes them up to being disingenuous attempts to get him to the US via Sweden (as opposed to extradition being a day2day thing) prove that. His being a wannabe-messiah does not make him above sex-crime law. The very fact that we have the US's Mr Moore alleging that the charges are politically-motivated - when he doesn't even understand them well enough to know that extradition (between countries that erm ..... don't include US) is an automatic thing ..... oi vey.

Huguenot Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > and *breathe* ;-) > LOL < I've given in to this one after years of resistance!

Perhaps you could let the world know when the line occurs Lou? We have to allow for people's differing conditionings/cultures and that some people can just 'get over it' when they know others' opinions of them. Some of us are thin-skinned and some of us are not. Some of us are given to playing to the in-crowd (such as a person in whose culture it has a meaning to show the soles of one's feet in an exchange). The exchanges that happen in international diplomacy and politics have to allow for the local differences, they're not simply 1:1 and I for one would not want any hooligan that happens to have the vote to have a say in how international politics should be conducted. Should members of the EDL have a say in how our diplomats behave? Of course as much as possible should be out in the open and Machiavelli-type double dealing is not good and confidentiality shouldn't allow for torture but there simply isn't enough time in everyone's day to know about and give permission for everyotherlittlething that people are to do in their roles. Re my accidentally duplicated para above, about the order of things, what is seen and known about when, whether things are seen and become known in the right order or not ..... it's all delicate enough in one 24hr cycle, now that days roll in to other country's nights .... we can't pretend everything should be on hold till all the world's Joe Bloggs approve everything first. Assange is vain. In releasing docs he has not yet read himself is he 'proving' he's not being judge and jury or simply being as cack-handed as some of us (not all) believe the Alliance was pre-Iraq? So ...... where do his own priorities lie? .

If I hear one Lib Dem say once more that 'now we know what we know' or 'yes but things are different when in Govt' I really think I will thcweam. Re the former they belong in my tools draw along with the newspaper lining it .... it's the Letters column of a paper dated Jan '93 and begins "We've got used to a Conservative govt blaming the current ills on the shortcomings of the [Labour] govt but now we've got Clement Freud ... blaming an even earlier Labour govt for the hardships of .......". So ...... things were ever thus. Re the latter if one of these previously-seemingly honest injuns had the grace, now, to add " ... and all those times we thcweamed at what the Labour govt was doing we had no nouse of what we spake'. At least Labour are staying mostly quiet at the moment, they kney know what will happen will and like most of us can't be hoping for 'bring it on'. .

Shouldn't we have real time coverage of Mr Assange's every minute on the net, right now? I'm surprised he hasn't suggested it himself (or that if he has he has not had it published). Shouldn't we know all about all his convos with his counsel about the sex charges? Should they remain private if nothing else should? At the very least should his counsel not be publishing every conversation they have, every conversation he has about Assange with whomsover and every scrap of opoinion he has of the man? After all, why should the principle of any exchange being ripe for broadcast stop at when it's been exchanged? When will we have the right to know what people are thinking that they haven't yet thought of expressing? Thought Police Mr ASSange? ----- Real time matters because chronology matters; we can read what someone has said to someone else at some time but we do not know what they had read or heard from their Inbox/tray and how apprised they were of situations' totality ...... few of us see or read everything that reaches us via its own channels in the actual order sent. What about hearing what the household servants heard of Jemima and Imran's marriage as it fell apart? Real time matters because chronology matters; we can read what someone has said to someone else at some time but we do not know what they had read or heard from their Inbox/tray and how apprised they were ...... few of us see or read everything that reaches us via its own channels in the actual order sent. I'm sure Mr Assange must be among those that use the 'no forward plan' criticism about the invasion of Iraq. I think that crown of thorns belongs on him about his careless lazy behaviour.

I've been with Virgin Media for two years and really like having cable TV reception as opposed to aerial or dish but am having landline problems (no access even to operator or emergency) that are now in the 3rd week and today was told there are no 2-person teams available till Jan 18th. Surely a courtesy mobile should be provided? We'll see .... As for willb308's good luck! I've sent letters to their so-called Customer Care Director that have been signed in but not replied to. This is all going back well over 18m and is about surcharges that have been unbelievable. I've lost patience so now it's to become an Otelo matter :-( Happy New Year Mr Davidson!