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I've lived on LL for about 20 years....previous to that on Chrystal Palace Road. I would say its fine being on the main road. We have double glazing....which reduces traffic noise to a murmer. At night, traffic noise declines anyway. Any noise we do get is from people and mainly from the back...drunks and loud neighbours having parties in the garden...but you're just as likely to get that on a side road.

Wondering...who has right of way at the Court Lane Park gates?. Cyclist and pedestrians share the pavement gates but cyclists often whiz through in the morning, ring bells and expecting walkers to jump out of their way.

We're still waiting for ten packages, first dated 11th November. Initially were waiting for fourteen but four have arrived.

Has anyone noticed night time road works on LL or other main roads? There was extreme drilling the other night near the Plough which went on all night. My poor son had an exam the next day. I am presuming that road works on main roads during the day would cause complete grid lock as there is nowhere else for traffic to disperse to. Because of the LTNs. So they're having to do it at night.

Re the Court Lane/DV junction. I've observed some very dangerous cycling behaviour. It's not safe to cross as a pedestrian....even when the green man is showing, cyclists seem to race down and across the junction, not obeying the traffic lights and easily going more than 20mph. Plus they're silent.

Exactly @heartblock. And they also ignore the poor pedestrians (at the bottom of the food chain) who live and have to walk on these main roads whilst drinking in fumes from the displaced traffic.

I agree completely with the above comment. As someone with a disability who cannot drive, the cyclists have become emboldened by the lack of cars on that junction. I walk too slowly to get out of the way and it can be frightening as they are also silent. Its a similar situation in the park, where cyclists are supposed to go at 5mph and give way to pedestrians. Some do seem to think it's a race track.

Could I add another suggestion to Rocket's list....and that would be the enforcement of the 20mph speed limit,together with other traffic calming measures. I live on LL. I'm a non driver and walk everywhere. The views of pedestrians should be sought too and the assumption not made that they support LTNs. . I would love to see less traffic, but since LTNs were introduced traffic on my road of course and most of my walking journeys, has become much worse. I can understand the frustration and annoyance of those to whom the LTNs seem to be a fait accomplit.The consultation has just not been good enough.

I've read the Report. Did I miss the bit that defines an LTN? And what a Nieghbourhood is. A closed road is not a Neighbourhood.Its just a road with less traffic on. Surely a Neighbourhoid in our case would be the whole of East Dulwich, ( shops, schools, park, bus stops, train station) which would include the closure of Lordship Lane. All my walks, as I cant drive, would then be pollution free. It would be great to wait for a bus free from standing traffic belching out fumes.

I think the problem should also be seen from the non driver, non cyclist point of view...ie the walker. The LTNs have made life worse. I walk everywhere and when walking ,inevitably walk on main roads....My most frequent journey being a walk up Lordship Lane (where I live) to the Horninan ( which is the quickest route.)Its awful now.The filing traffic fumes are horrendous. I also walk to the down Eynella and cross Court Lane to Dulwich Park, where cyclists now go much too fast and seem to have stopped looking out for pedestrians.

Of course, you're right. Most side roads are too narrow (although I reckon Court Lane is almost wide enough to be a main road) I just think that rather than the closure of side roads, traffic should be more equitably distributed over ALL roads. Furthermorr, Lordship Lane is supposed to be 20mph. Why have a speed limit if its not enforced?.Money could have been put into this enforcement rather than the divisive LTNs.

Im going to be contentious here...Other than the side streets being narrow, why would anyone object to lorries going down them anyway? Barry Road is wide but it is residential. Lordship Lane is also residential(I live on it). Would it not be fairer to share out the traffic evenly? And perhaps enforce the 20mph speed limit.

The trouble is...as soon people start going back to work and using public transport again they will find main roads all around London are choked with traffic at a standstill, including buses.I cant see the LTN schemes as anything other than 'botched' partly because there doesn't seem to be a London wide policy. Journeys often cross borough boundaries, by their very nature. It seems badly thought out even before the issue of who does and doesn't benefit is considered. (I'm a non driver who lives on Lordship Lane)

I dont believe the closures benefit pedestrians at all. I dont drive and live on one of the main roads. It's been really unpleasant walking along Lordship Lane up to the Harvester with idling traffic belching out fumes since the planters were installed.

Got the spelling wrong. Its 'weissel' not 'weasel'!

Has anyone noticed the smell of gas that comes and goes around the Plough area? We have also noticed it strongly in our ground floor flat. Called out a gas engineer who could find no leak on our system. Also rang the gas leak emergency number. A man came round from Southern Gas Networks. He said that he had been called out quite a few times to investigate in this area of Lordship Lane, esp outside Sainsburys. Apparently when the road was dug up over the summer to replace the old gas pipes, old Victorian gas fumes that had seeped into the surrounding soil were released. Unfortunately they are also being released into our flat. The fumes are called 'weasel' and are apparently not flammable. However they are very strong and we have to sleep with the window open. Has anyone else heard of 'weasel'? Or had a similar experience?