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Have they frozen their assets?

Client of a friend of mine is Richard Head. You'd deed poll, wouldn't you? Er, hope he doesn't read this.

And left Tillie looking quite frantic

Oh god, puts you off your Cod peas and chips.

Two great firms names, one Solicitors and one accountants, if you are interested. www.wrighthassall.co.uk/ and www.phibbsedge.co.uk/ You can guess which ones which.

kford Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Did you know they were invloved in The Cheese > Block too? No, didn't know that. Is there no end to their empire building? I really like the coffee they sell in the Cheese Block, oh and some of the cheese too.

I saw a couple of guys from SMBS in there last night. Make sense if they took it to expand into.

And go for drink with Bagpuss

I take it you won't be at the Plough tomorrow night then?

Frisco Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > > I hope all this excitement doesn't affect the > heart scan I'm having to have tomorrow* at Kings! Have you got a heart Frisco? If they find it hope all is well with you. I enjoy your acerbity even if others find it a bit of a challenge.

Thanks, Frisco I didn't know all that. Was it the underground rivers that were the final nail for the underground in this part of south london? Nico Ladenis lived in Camberwell Grove at the time and I think he would have been more than happy to be in the west end. But his was the real start of 'New English' cooking for me, and it was not a popular style at the time. Fresh ingredients, meat cooked rare etc I think he opened there as it was the nearest place to DV he could get his hand on, I can't remember if it was a burger place before or after he was in there, before it became the Chinese. Tram lines indeed, far too modern, surely Edward Alleyn started the regeneration of East Dulwich.

I thought the East London Line extension was going to carry on through ED to Wimbledon when it was originally planned. Also thought it still could happen in the future if they can get the funding.. For me the proper regeneration of the area started with Nico Ladenis in the very late '70's or early '80's. He showed that there was an appetite (no pun intended) for an upmarket restaurant in, what was, a fairly downmarket area. I think after he went other people saw the potential and started to move in.

Surely it's our old favorite demographics which change an area. We are merely the pawns in an over large game of chess over which we have little or no control. The estate agents move in afterwards like the parasites they are. I should know. Er, yes, it was a good lunch thanks.

I haven't been since they played Chelsea in the early '70's @ DKH. Great example to us all Mark mising your teams game to watch DH.

We had an attempted theft from our office roof and the police told us that this is a highly organised operation going on around London and in the rest of the country. Thanks to a very alert neighbour they managed to catch one of them. I'm told he'll be behind maetal bars for some time!

I was living in Court Lane and remember being woken up by the noise of the wind. Mrs Oldie, fasters of course. Looked out of the window and saw half of south londons vegitation moving towards DV. Dul Park was closed for several days (maybe 10?) while they made the place safe. I think the woods were badly affected too.

lilolil Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The bakers in LL were called PLACE Bakers. The > brothers lived in the two houses up opposite Court > Lane. Jock Place used to drink in The Castle in CPR. He and his brother had a collection of vintage motobikes. The two houses in LL opposite Court lane had a workshop and garages behind where they kept the bikes. I often saw one of their sons at the Woodhouse having riden one of the bikes up there. They were very nice people and mad about motorbikes.

nothing wrong with a mix of shops in a (very) vibrant shopping area. What I object to is the chains using their financial muscle to force other traders out of the area. LL was lovely today (and Northcross rd). But it could change so easily if we allow it to. Support the smaller shops, the extra expence must be worth it.

Frisco Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > "I saw it about 1973 it seemed to be doing well so > I was supprised to see it has gone" > > I think it only went within the last 10 years ago. I have to agree, it was quite recently, certainly within the last ten years.

Bit more than afew pastries then. Does seem completely arse about face. Some newspeak from any of the councillors?

The guy who owned it sold it off to developers. I think one of the younger guys who worked there was his son and I think he (the son) moved down to the west country, but certainly outside london.

Maurice Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes close down the multi-national coffee shops. > Then we can all sit home and watch brilliant media > provided by that local independent Time Warner. > > Marvelous! Don't get me on the fourth estate. I'll never stop ranting.

Exactly my point. The analogy should be the other way round. The council not being the sledgehammer in this case.

Don't forget the whole market has grown since the days of Mrs T. The council house sell off being a big driving factor at the bottom of the market. More people 'own' their own house today than ever before. It's in lots of peoples interest (literaly) to lend money for people to buy and the whole thing feeds on itself. Markets of any sort experience ups & downs but the overwhelming trend for house prices in London & the South east has been upwards since the war. Consider what your parents paid for their first property and what that property would cost today. I would suggest that Foxtons are here for the very long term. They see the market growing further and being able to offer a more attractive service than their competitors. It has obviously worked for them elsewhere.

I think some are missing the point of being 'anti chain' if you like. The chains can economically strangle local businesses if allowed to. This is the whole point of having planning controls which are enforced. Nobody is suggesting that LL is or should be some sort of 50's/60's timewarp but at the same time there is an opportunity for us all and southwark to preserve something that is good, ie the shopping centre that is LL. If we all allow big business to compete unfairly, which is what I would suggest Nero are doing here, then we will not have any independents left. LL is no different from many other High Sts where there has been a move from a large number of small shops to these being made uneconomic by competition from bigger traders costs have come down allowing small traders in again which has in return made the whole thing more attractive to the multiples. Look at the Tesco Metros and Sainsburys Express? There are not there as a community service, some years ago the large supermarket chains realised that they were losing highly profitable trade to smaller supermarkets/corner shops and determined to do something about it hence the change and the fact they control more of the market than ever. This is why you need strictly adherred to palnning controls in this day and age. Or the b*ggers will walk all over us and our choice will be removed completely.