''This all seems to be covering similar ground to the littering/cigar-butt thread, and a previous one on traffic wardens - do something naughty, get caught, get fined, throw tantrum.'' It is not tantrum throwing - but a discussion! People just don't like the tactics used by the council - if they could see the RESULTS after these fines have been processed. As I said before, the streets still have shi* on them, potholes in the road, itimidating yobs by the station. But STOP PRESS - Lilly was illegally parked!