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Yes. It goes via East Dulwich Grove. The idea that Calton Avenue was a 'major East / West corridor is just silly. It was at best a way to cut out the lights on EDG, saving a couple of minutes max if you were travelling from the Village to Lordship Lane. Do you honestly believe that Waze didn't always direct cars travelling from Goose green to Forest Hill around the lights and the Plough junction during rush hour? Honestly? The fact is that as apps such as Waze have become more popular, more and more people are being directed down back streets and around lights / major junctions.

Oh I see. So we’re ignoring the example you gave (that was nonsense) and trying another one. OK. Do you really think that the route given by Waze to get to Forest Hill (no longer to the plough junction of the south circular) is different because of a filter on Calton Avenue? When would you ever have gone from goose green via calton Avenue to get to Forest Hill? Waze always tries to direct people around the lights. It always has. It’s what it does on Ryedale too. Are you serious?

Yeh, you're right. There was no rush hour congestion at the Grove Tavern junction of the South circular before *checks notes* a filter on Calton Avenue!?🫠 Plug that journey (goose green, to Dulwich Common) in to Waze for 6 O'clock and see where it directs you - via Dulwich Village. There is no way that the filter on Calton Avenue is making people switch their route from Goose green to the junction of Lordship Lane and the South circular, from Dulwich Village to Underhill.

Eh? There hasn't been a closure of a 'main East/West route'. You just can't cut up Calton Avenue, but to drive around it is a 2 - 3 minute diversion. How does someone travelling from the junction of Dulwich Village and Calton Avenue, end up diverting to underhill road as a result of the filter? Explain the route that you think the Calton Avenue filter is leading new people to underhill from.

So how are the timed restrictions in the village (which are between 3.00 and 4.30) causing congestion on Underhill Road between 17.00 and 18.00? What's the route that people are using Underhill for, that they'd otherwise use the village for if it wasn't for a 90 minute restriction period that ends at 4.30? This makes no sense.

Chi Chinese on Lordship Lane is good.

That's true. I was thinking outside the substation, but may be private land.

Does seem a bit odd to have three stored semi-permanently on the street together. Maybe it's a hire company business?

They do have other lockers where you can drop off parcels, as well as some shops who will take them. If you use the Royal Mail app, or website, you can also arrange for collection of parcels from your house. The service is actually pretty good (and a lot easier than going to the post office). There are a lack of Royal Mail lockers though. Would be good to get some more - perhaps one on North Cross road? They don't need to be outside the Post Office necessarilly.

Think there is a shoe recycling bin by the Plough pub too (in the carpark).

I haven't been there recently, but when I visited Love Dulwich, I thought it was really good value and the food was good. Agree about Rye Lane - Peckham seems to have a lot of good places (and new places opening regularly).

I'm not really taking a position on this proposal, just pointing out what may have lead to it. I can see the rationale. I guess we'll find out what impact it actually has when the trial starts.

What does this mean then: Not according to the signage. If you know your Highway Code you know what that sign means. Because I take it to mean the signs prohibit permit holders, contractors or park staff from driving in the park. And you seemed to imply that means the speed limit doesn't apply to them. Perhaps you could clarify.

Oh Ok, it's just the usual. A filter on Calton Avenue is not having an impact on Ryedale. Waze absolutely has done. It always tries to direct me down that road, which I ignore. No, it directs you down there to avoid the lights and possibly save 30 seconds. But it leads to more cars having to slow down on Forest Hill road as cars stop to manoeuvre in and out of Rye dale. Waze only looks to optimise the individual journey not to improve flow across the wider system.

Are you talking about Calton Avenue? How's that having an impact on Ryedale? Waze does direct people down Ryedale - that's exactly how it works. It's very slightly quicker to cut out the lights. But it slows down cars on Forest Hill Road. Waze it trying to optimise an individuals journey, but that doesn't mean it's optimising at a macro level. It's absolutely not.

Most traffic used to go down Dunstans Road, turning at the lights on to Forest Hill Road. Now Waze etc, diverts a lot of traffic down Rye Dale in order to avoid the lights. I imagine that residents have seen a big increase in traffic over the last few years. The lights allow you to manage flow; A significant increase in the number of vehicles using Rye dale to cut them out, will disrupt that flow and slow traffic on Forest Hill Road. I suspect this is why they're proposing this trial. Worth pushing the council to do proper baselining and monitor the impact properly.

If you're looking for a reasonably priced gym, there are a couple of PureGyms not too far away in Camberwell and Peckham. They're less than £20 a month with no joining fee. If you're looking to get fitter and / or lose weight, and you don't have any mobility issues, then download the coach to 5k app and start running. It's by far the easiest, quickest and cheapest way to improve your cardiovascular fitness and it's great for clearing your head!

Not according to the signage. If you know your Highway Code you know what that sign means. You're seriously claiming that there are no vehicles that drive in the park? No permit holders, contractor or park staff? And so there is no speed limit applicable to motor cars?

If the government said all departments and Labour MPs must stop using the platform - and perhaps suggested moving over to an alternative such as Bluesky and called on the BBC and other media organisations to do the same, they could. I think they should.

This is fair - I posted before property reading it so apologise for the truncation. But even with the full quote above, what Rocks has said is still not true. Permit holders are allowed to drive in the park, as are contractors and park staff - not just pedestrians, dogs and cyclists. There are rising arm barriers and notice to car users just in front of the one that Rocks has shared a picture of. You said that there were inherent issues with Southwark encouraging cyclists to use the park what are they? The fact that cyclist must give way to pedestrians in the park? Cyclist must always give way to pedestrians, whether in a park or on a road, so that is irrelevant. I have no problem at all with Southwark encouraging people to use their bicycles in a park and it appears you do, for reasons I simply do not understand.

Even if they’re not going to regulate, they could at least stop actively supporting it. Why are our MPs using a platform that is filled with hate speech, harassment and which enables the generation of sexual images of children? It’s unacceptable imo.

This isn't true. Permit holders are allowed to drive in the park, as are contractors and park staff. There is a notice just in front of the one you have posted a photo of by the rising arm barriers.

It is not. This is absolute nonsense.

Here is the sign (just in front of the one that Rocks has posted). I've screen grabbed it off Streetview so it's blurred out some of the instructions, but makes it clear that cars should abide by a 5 mph speed limit.

It's absolutely insane. You have people who seem to want park users not to exceed a brisk walking pace, unless they're in a motor vehicle, who object to Southwark encouraging people to use their bicycles in the park, and who object to a 20 mph speed limit on a road just outside the gates - on which there have been numerous serious injuries and deaths.