Earl Aelfheah

Not according to the signage. If you know your Highway Code you know what that sign means. You're seriously claiming that there are no vehicles that drive in the park? No permit holders, contractor or park staff? And so there is no speed limit applicable to motor cars?

If the government said all departments and Labour MPs must stop using the platform - and perhaps suggested moving over to an alternative such as Bluesky and called on the BBC and other media organisations to do the same, they could. I think they should.

This is fair - I posted before property reading it so apologise for the truncation. But even with the full quote above, what Rocks has said is still not true. Permit holders are allowed to drive in the park, as are contractors and park staff - not just pedestrians, dogs and cyclists. There are rising arm barriers and notice to car users just in front of the one that Rocks has shared a picture of. You said that there were inherent issues with Southwark encouraging cyclists to use the park what are they? The fact that cyclist must give way to pedestrians in the park? Cyclist must always give way to pedestrians, whether in a park or on a road, so that is irrelevant. I have no problem at all with Southwark encouraging people to use their bicycles in a park and it appears you do, for reasons I simply do not understand.

Even if they’re not going to regulate, they could at least stop actively supporting it. Why are our MPs using a platform that is filled with hate speech, harassment and which enables the generation of sexual images of children? It’s unacceptable imo.

This isn't true. Permit holders are allowed to drive in the park, as are contractors and park staff. There is a notice just in front of the one you have posted a photo of by the rising arm barriers.

It is not. This is absolute nonsense.

Here is the sign (just in front of the one that Rocks has posted). I've screen grabbed it off Streetview so it's blurred out some of the instructions, but makes it clear that cars should abide by a 5 mph speed limit.

It's absolutely insane. You have people who seem to want park users not to exceed a brisk walking pace, unless they're in a motor vehicle, who object to Southwark encouraging people to use their bicycles in the park, and who object to a 20 mph speed limit on a road just outside the gates - on which there have been numerous serious injuries and deaths.

Yes, I said I: Ringing a bell is not a sign that you want someone to 'get out of the way', but should be used as a polite way to let someone know you're approaching / passing (the highway code actually recommends this). Have you often had cyclists who have cycled straight at you, or into you, rather than going around you? I just don't recognise this picture of cyclists expecting people to give way to them in the park, and I'm there most days. This is just wrong. Motor vehicles with permits are allowed in the park. There is a 5 mph speed limit for them.

There's a gym at JAGS, Dulwich College and Dulwich Hamlet. There is 'fit for' gym on Lordship Lane and the Leisure centre on Crystal Palace road, and a number of gyms in Peckham and Camberwell.

I have no problem at all with Southwark encouraging people to use their bicycles in a park. I'm amazed you do. It does feel like there are a handful of people who regularly post in this section, who don't want bicycles on our roads, or in our parks, or really anywhere else.

This is not my experience (bikes have always gone round me), but I do agree that there are too many who go too fast. I don't know what it means to build 'greenway cycle routes' - can you expand on that? Does it mean having segregated / dedicated cycle lanes in the park?

👆 as I already said. No one has argued that there is no 5 mph limit, or that there aren’t 5 mph signs; just that the byelaws refer only to motor vehicles and so the limit is only enforceable in relation to motor vehicles. Your interpretation of the two signs (that the second one applies only in the context of the first), is both wrong and also irrelevant to the point about what is and isn’t legally enforceable. Presumably applying your logic, the 5mph limit also applies to dogs and to people on foot. Is that correct? Makes Parkrun interesting 🤣 (for context a brisk walking pace is generally 3 to 4.5 mph) As the shared path sign doesn’t show motor vehicles, are you also suggesting the speed limit sign does not therefore apply to cars in the park? 🤔

You can take it as you like. Read my previous post. What’s the byelaw that makes a 5mph limit for people on bicycles (or for dogs, or for people on foot for that matter) legally enforceable? Councils can’t make law via a sign. And if you read that sign in the way you suggest, there are going to be a lot of dogs getting nicked 🤣

Elon Musk's 'X', rapidly spreads misinformation, hate speech, harassment and enables the creation and distribution of deepfakes. It is in my opinion, having a malign influence on society. Recently it has been reported that 'Grok' (it's AI function) allows people to create sexualised images of children. It is disgraceful that the UK government isn't taking any action to regulate the platform, in the absence of their putting reasonable controls in place themselves. At the very, very least, the UK government and our MPs should not be actively supporting 'X' by using it themselves. If you agree, I would encourage you to write to Ellie Reeves demanding some action (she posts regularly on the platform). Her email address is [email protected]