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Except you have no evidence for this. Calling people you disagree with lobbyists, or saying that they work for the council is just a way of trying to delegitimise what they may say, without engaging with it. It is not good faith debate. And it's ironic, that for all your dismissal of people's opinions as being those of 'lobbyists' with an agenda, you're quoting the AA as though they're an independent source - they are an actual lobby group that campaigns on behalf of motorists. You can have legitimate differences of opinion, or put different interpretations on things, but that's different to stating things that are just false. For example, saying that a street is now more dangerous for pedestrians, when pedestrian collisions and injuries have fallen, or that pollution has increased, when it has actually fallen - those things are demonstrably untrue. That is misinformation. You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts. Arghh - he drew me back in 😉
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They're not wrong to blame the previous government for leaving a mess. But they made stupid promises on taxation, which made it impossible for them to fix things. They should never have made those promises, but having done so it would be stupider still not to correct course imo. Breaking their manifesto pledge is the better of two bad options. More austerity / cuts to services just aren't going to wash with the public. They have to raise money in the short to medium term.
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Selective licensing for rentals extended
Earl Aelfheah replied to Ebenezer's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
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There is a great fireworks event every year in Battle. A bit like the Lewes one, but slightly smaller / more manageable. It’s not just you. Definitely seems to be a bit more subdued this year locally
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It’s either cancel a Christian holiday or remove the flags and surrender to the wokerati in one Kent village. What a terrible bind for the reform types 🤣 https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/nov/03/beyond-ironic-reform-led-council-says-flags-must-come-down-so-christmas-lights-can-go-up
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Selective licensing for rentals extended
Earl Aelfheah replied to Ebenezer's topic in General ED Issues / Gossip
Old article, but suggest that Southwark has, at least in the last, been relatively good at pursuing rouge landlords https://www.londonpropertylicensing.co.uk/southwark-council-take-most-landlord-prosecutions-london/#:~:text=Southwark – 131 prosecutions (3 civil,data on civil financial penalties) -
But it didn't. We have air monitoring data that shows that pollution dropped. Your 'it must have done' assumption can be (and has been) objectively tested and is objectively wrong. This is just completely untrue. You've said the LTN increased pollution. Just two examples are quoted above (see your comment on 12 Sept).
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If you’re referring to the implementation of the LTN (?), the modelling done pre-implementation (commissioned by the council) forecast a reduction in pollution. The pollution monitoring post implementation has shown significant improvements in air quality. If you want to winge about your fine for another year, please try and at least keep it to this one thread so that we don’t have to keep hearing about it across the whole section.
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You're quite wrong. You're actually just demonstrating your inability to ever accept an error. You've made statements about pedestrian safety, pollution and crime - All of which there are good data for and which demonstrate those claims are objectively false. You've deflected from the topic again on this thread, by first misrepresenting something I said, and then using it to re litigate all this other nonsense. And why? Because you've spent nearly a year refusing to accept any responsibility for a fine that was issued quite properly.
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That is not true. You’ve actually suggested that the LTN has made pollution worse more than once. But in a couple of examples I can be bothered to find, you said: and... The air monitoring data is clear that pollution has massively improved. So this is simply not true. On road danger at the junction, you did say the junction was more dangerous now for pedestrians than it was previously: But that's not true either. The data shows the opposite and this was pointed out to you. When challenged and provided with the data on both these claims (and others you've made) demonstrating that they are objectively wrong, you've doubled down or deflected. And this is what you're doing again. The fact is that nearly a year ago you got a fine after being caught driving in a bus lane (or 'across a bus lane' if you prefer). This is easily avoidable. Yes it sucks. But you're just incapable of admitting error. It's always double down, deflect, claim conspiracy. It's so, so boring.
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@Rockets If you want me to go back and dig out all the false and completely unevidenced statements you’ve made I can, but it’s very boring. Perhaps easier would be to simply ask where you’ve ever accepted a ‘mistake’. Just once? This is not true. Again, you’ve fallen for Rockets kicking up dust. Southwark publish figures for successful appeals annually. The admin error you’re referring to happened this year and is not included in the most recently published figures.
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Yes, it was clearly to do with the Dulwich LTN. It was the wider initiative that the LTN scheme was part of. The consultation (Southwark's largest ever) showed majority support for the aims set out under the ‘Streets for People’ strategy, which included things like improving road safety, reducing the amount of cut-through traffic etc. The LTN was designed to, and did, contribute to meeting those aims. You seem to think the consultations took the form of a single survey which amounted to a yes/no referendum. It is more complicated and has been discussed to death. And again: “The point is, and it's demonstrated again on this thread, that rather than ever admit an error, you double down or deflect. My one loosely worded comment - quickly clarified, is literally all you've got, and you have referenced it repeatedly, any time you're challenged on a matter of fact and don't want to admit having made a ‘mistake’. It's a bit sad.”
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