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So much that you'd "probably get involved" in something thatctwo posts earlier you were trumpeting a call to arms for.

"probably get involved" say it all really.

Or would you rather just sit around criticizing people who are trying to do some good, getting all self-righteous whilst not actually caring enough to do anything about it yourself?

Go on then.

They didn't ask for money

Again, it was made quite clear about 7 pages back by King's Director of Fundraising that the Trust and Charity are two financially separate organisations, there has been nosuggestiom that I can see that the hospital is going to be run on charitable donations...you may be going a little over the top with your dystopian vision there.

What Moos said seems to make sense, everybody is shouting about providing an opt in or opt out when this would appear to be exactly what this letter was.

@jollybaby "I'd be interested to know what the response rate from the letter send out was..." Jane Ferguson, the Director of Fundraising mentioned in a post a few pages back that she had received thousands of letters of support following the etter going out...Probabaly safe to assume that most those people wanted to know more, which was the point of the letter in the first place, that is probabaly as near to an answer as you are going to get. Sounds like a successful approach to me.

Glad to see that the piont about the chaities millions of pound of investment into our community has been ignored again then. How sad.

Good point Rosie. I think it is quite sad that in amongst the very self-righteous, fault-finding posts on this site that nobody has referred back to the point made by the lady from King's; this charity invests ?3m per year in grants to the hospital, it has just paid out ?1m for a vital CT scanner for A@E and ?9m to re-build the children's hospital. I wonder if any other organization making that level of investment into the community would come in for this amount of abuse and criticism if it offered to tell us more about it's work?

Why? To what end?

Yes DJ, that does seem a rather odd thing to want to do, especially when you didn't even receive a letter.

Well...According to the ICO they do...I'm sure that the Hospital's Caldicott Officer would not have allowed the letter to go out if there had been any issues with the GMC guidelines.

PK I'm sure tha the above points must have come up during negotiatons with the ICO, who's job it is to govern this. My understanding was that the letter was from the hospital on behalf of the charity, so no data would have been transferred over to the charity. If the ICO say that there are no issues with this, then we are just going to have to accept that there are no issues with this no matter how much people look fo them. The ICO are the law as far as this type of thing goes.

Also DJ i think that they King's person did say in their rewssponse that they had worked with the ICO and Lawyers to ensure that this could be undertaken legitinmately...As Keef says, just because you may not like it, although I understand that you have not actually received one of these letters or read one, it doesn't make it wrong. there is obvioulsy a need for funding and the people employed to raise that have approached those with most reason to give and they have done their research to ensure that no DPA laws have been broken. all seems fairly reasonable and sensible to me.

And nobedy, in this instance, has been approached for cash.

So who would you target then?

Sorry Mick Mac, I thought that your point was that it was poorly targeted, mainly because you stated in your post that it was "poorly targeted". So, how would you target it?

Mick Mac, who would you target?

Hear, hear Timster!

A voice of reason. If half the combined energy that people are putting into generating negative energy on this stream was focused on supporting this charity, which has spent millions supporting our community, then maybe they wouldn't need to send the letter in the first place.

I thought that the lady from Kings had covered that now. If you don't want the letter put it in the bin.

Which in turn will benefit those within the community using the services of the hospital.

I though that the question regarding the way the data was used was covered by the lady from Kings quite well...Seemingly no DPA issues. PR I'm sure they would be quite happy to send you one of their letters if you maybe asked them.

I have just read this thread and can't really understand what the issue is...Here is a charity which has invested millions of pounds in seeking to improve upon the basic service provided by the NHS in our community...Surely they ought to be encouraged and supported by those who will profit by improved medical services...i.e. our community.