Ha ha huggy you do make me chuckle. This threads become more about my personal credentials than a quick survey on the people of ed's views on fg. I really meant it as nothing more than that, didn't expect so many hundreds of posts! That long lost quote was in the context of asking restaurants to serve a vegan dish. I'm sorry if my enthusiasm made me a little keen. I have always advocated politeness when talking to managers of restaurants and tried to keep discussions positive. To lobby parliament would take years, I'm looking local as I don't have any political influence on Westminster do i? The Dvvs also run a number of different initiatives, fg is only one. dulwich Meat free days, vegan alcohol, veggies parents group, vegan ice cream in cinema, networking with churches schools councillors and mps for the environment, human health and animal welfare. Thanks for all the comments guys, it has been emotional.