TJ You will have to venture in to the deepist depthes of SE 15 but don't be frightend, I know that this will strike fear and trepadation in to the heart's of some forumites, but be brave, pluck up the courage and try it, you wont even need a minder or stab proof vest, out with the A to Z and look up Nigel rd where it meets Peckham Rye, there is life out side SE 22 shudders. Bob S