Curmudgeon

Did I miss a comment on the appallingly tight left hand turn from townley into east dulwuch grove ...the one that has cars and coaches swinging out into the path of oncoming traffic? Is that not an area of safety concern at all? Edit ..oh I see it ...it is supposedly not an issue, in the right place and due to positioning of cars on approach to junction and it is all ok In reality it is so far from being ok it is laughable

My eldest child is 15 and still sees friends he went to primary school with, despite none of them going to his school ..in fact they all go to schools all around: Charter, Harris boys, Kingsdale and alleyns My youngest is at a different school to her brother, she goes to Sydenham and seems very happy too When your children go to primary you'll make a whole bunch of new friends And your children will be friends, and they'll grow older and make friends whose parents you don't know ...which feels odd tbh but is something you get used to It will be fine

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They should use it to correct that ridiculously dangerous townley road / east dulwich grove junction they created

there's a metalworks place under the arches in Peckham as you enter the one-way system - well there was nip in there

keane Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > No James I don't agree - look at charter that is > distance based and the catchment has shrunk > dramatically and those that can afford to move > near the school can get in but those living over > 1,600 metres away this year couldnt get a place. > At least with Kingsdale the lottery means that > children have a chance of going to a good school > but don't have to live right next to the school in > another expensive area! I think if Charter do > their admissions on distance then the lottery > system at kingsdale at least gives other children > a chance. I agree with this, if the lottery was fair and independent...despite our eldest securing a place on scholarship and doing very well there I have always found the admissions policy vague

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I don't think it is meant to be a primary aged service but rather up to the authority to determine need As a parent I would imagine the need is greater for the final years of primary and the first years of secondary when children are more likely to be crossing unaccompanied I still find this junction one of the most dangerous to cross as a pedestrian and to drive through

Fair enough You haven't lost anything because your application was in addition to the standard application form. The application to the new Charter did not take one of your standard application places. Yes of course you are entitled to feel how you feel. As are others entitled to feel that any concern is misplaced. If you do want a place I hope you are successful in getting one. I do appreciate how stressful this process is.

This isn't 3 miles away The school / DoE are laying on coaches It's kind of a moot point And believe me I wasn't OK about it before the eldest started nor when he first started cycling ...it becomes easier to allow them independence, I was just mentioning that this can be harder on parents than children

So Charter School students are not part of the requirement for lollipop on that horrible junction, because there are always Charter students there as they get out earlier Interesting

So shuttle buses to and from, public transport and just over a mile away That said, my son managed to get to Kingsdale which is closer to 3 miles by walking, now cycles..and yes from the age of 11 My daughter manages a public bus to Sydenham Girls ...2 miles away Part of going to secondary is burgeoning independence which involves getting to places and back ..it is far harder for parents to adjust than children :) It looks pretty amazing as a temporary site ..well done Charter ED for securing it

Mick Mac Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > no change to the admissions policy - just a change > to where the school is going to be for two years - > that was the point - isn't that bad enough? > > someone suggested the kids could walk it - sorry > but they are only 11 years old, its going to be a > very long way from some parts of ED This is a non problem if you actually read the Charter site so I don't understand why you wouldn't do that before commenting "For this reason, the Department of Education will support The Charter Schools Educational Trust in providing travel between the permanent school (or a convenient nearby pickup point) and the entrance to the Southampton Way campus. Exact details are to be confirmed, but we envisage this will involve dedicated transport in the morning, drop-offs in the evening and to and from The Charter School North Dulwich for sporting provision and after-school clubs and societies. This will enable students to experience the independence associated with making their own way to secondary school while easing their journey." http://www.chartereastdulwich.org.uk/page/?title=Our+temporary+school+site+at+Southampton+Way&pid=120

QueenMab Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Well I've been taking my son to school via that > junction every day for the last year and a half > and they have been there every day...! I've been purposefully looking out for lollipop man / woman the last couple of weeks and not seen one between 3.10 and 3.20 ...just the charter students...maybe s/he comes later?

Loz Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I spent a small amount of time a couple of years > ago working with an education social enterprise in > Vietnam. I saw exactly why education is so > important - for girls AND boys. It really does > make an amazing difference to lives. > > Yes, boys in some countries do get an education > and girls don't, but even that 'education' is > often for a very short period of time when they > are very young and just covers (very) basic > reading and writing. As soon as they are able, > boys are usually sent out to work and earn the > family money. > > I'm all for helping girls get an education, but > please don't overlook boys as well. A proper > education for all. Whilst it's a valid point the cultural norms that underpin girls lack of education are completely different from the societal pressures that underpins boys.

Good read, ending was a bit weak I thought ...can't remember why ...think it slipped into boring repetition IIRC from years back but the first 2/3rds were excellent

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Townleygreen Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Curmudgeon, the council were going to cut the > lollipop people from that junction 4 or 5 years > ago. A local campaign and demonstration > successfully prevented that. > I can't explain how you haven't registered their > presence though! I pass it between 3.10 and 3.20 most school days when there are copious Charter School students around and that was the first time I have noticed one

I'm pretty certain that isn't actually true I have used that route at the end of the school day for 7 years (car and bicycle) ...I have NEVER seen a lollipop man at that junction...up at the top of Townley Road and Lordship Lane yes and also on the corner of East Dulwich Grove and Red Post Hill but never at this junction It seemed to be a one off anyway ...not seen him since

There's a lollipop man at the junction now Clearly not a safe junction by any stretch of the imagination

ED_moots Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Thanks for joining the discussion TCSED. > > Although unofficial you'll get a good measure of > local feeling/issues/paranoia. > > I hope you may also answer some questions as > answers become available. > > Such as... What proportion of the student > population at Charter RPH walk to school? Is it > 100%. > > I haven't recently asked an 11-18 year old to walk > 2 miles a day and I'm sure most are physically > capable but I bet its not an easy sell... EDF is not representative of local feeling IMHO and I think any school / board would and should only use a forum to provide information

James Barber Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hi localass, > I think the need for teachers to drive is a > personal thing. I know teachers that don't bring > marking home. They stay at their school and finish > all their work and then go home. I know another > who cycles with two large panniers some distance. > > This new school will have a car park. What we're > discussing is the size of it. That the charter > school very nearby thinks it knows how many car > parking spaces it will need. > > Hi ED_moots, > This was an issue from some years ago and is > resolved. > > hi Asset, > it was a footway between two estates that the > school felt unsafe. Local Police and residents > felt safe. Matter resolved some years ago. Hi James I think you're wrong in your first paragraph. And I think the Charter management are probably fully aware of the issues they will face with parking, deliveries, access and staffing

I have only experienced about 3 cars driving at 20 It is roundly and completely ignored IME