Robbie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=158&v=207HuOxltvI&feature=emb_logo Tanzanian President John Magufuli talks in detail about the suspicious tests where a goat, jackfruit, paw paw and kware bird somehow all tested positive for Corona.

W.H.O Offered $20million Bribe To Poison COVID-19 Cure Made by Madagascar ? President Andry Rajoelina Claims https://www.zambianobserver.com/w-h-o-offered-20million-bribe-to-poison-covid-19-cure-made-by-madagascar-president-andry-rajoelina-claims/

Mark Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I agree with robbie (shock!) that she tried to > play the race card to quickly, she was chomping at > the bit to get one over on him. I disagree that > CBS are part of the fake news brigade. Oh they definitely are fake news! They got caught red handed last week: 'CBS have been caught broadcasting fake footage where they attempted to ?make things look a little more panicked than they actually were? outside a hospital testing facility' https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/cbs-caught-broadcasting-fake-news-on-the-coronavirus/video/2aab84253871fedd2bbd88e3b6182755

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > There's obviously some issues about US-China (or > Trump-China). Anyone who saw today's Trump news > conference and the reaction of one of the press > corps to Trump before he walked away can see > that. > > She seemed really upset. It was shocking how she tried to play the race card. That was CBS reporter Weijia Jiang - part of the fake news brigade.

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Robbie, i wonder what that will cover. Do you know > if it will be made public, very interesting. Its a > shame we don*t have a system set up here for > people to be liable for there direction on a > social distancing Neil Ferguson which was put > forward to save lives but was not followed by > himself. I wonder if he got fined. I can almost > guarantee he won*t be waiting in a phone queue to > get through to Universal Credit. I'm not sure TE44 but I expect them to get a grilling about the advice they gave the Government. A few hours ago the UK Government have also condemmed the advice they receiced. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-uk-government-guidance-tests-sage-jeremy-hunt-a9509111.html

This is interesting. Dr Anthony Fauci director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr Robert Redfield director of Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Stephen Hahn commissioner of Food and Drug Administration (FDA) All 3 were due to testify before the US Senate tomorrow to examine liability during the COVID-19 pandemic. All 3 are now self-isolating but are required to give evidence via videolink. Edit - Fauci will attend wearing a mask. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52604671?fbclid=IwAR1nba1wACAsL6UU8mXNnOvYG_7wRCHJ2YlyJoD8dM4xMDOUIFueEFNLaYM https://www.congress.gov/event/116th-congress/senate-event/327413?s=5&r=3&fbclid=IwAR1MlbfriYfQzKz_uunMCHRElADDl0BrEU2iHnJoP2tuqZRJuUuCI1xHHIQ

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Robbie, I do not believe the PCR test is accurate, > i don*t understand how they can a;;ow different > levels of amplifications, I have heard this > mentioned before and also heard the genetic > material can actually be an immune response to > being ill. I think the lack of information and > unwillingness to share the way these tests work > and the implications of the different levels of > magnification even within the healing profession > frontline workers are expected to have faith in > these tests, without having that connection with > what tests are being used . I have never heard > efexosomes and I was slightly confused with how > they caused a problem when they neither cause nor > spread infections. the link did not work for me > but I found it on youtube. I do believe many thing > effect our immune system and I also believe our > bodies will react differently. I see there is > exosome treatment, I can*t imagine what that would > involve, I*ve had a very quick look only. I think > the public should be informed about the tests. > there should be more transparency. This was the first I've seen about an exosome theory and thought I'd share it in case anyone with any knowledge in this area would be kind enough to comment. What she is claiming could give grounds for libel action. Which reminds me of, and still baffles me to this day, as to why Tom Hanks never took any action against Sarah Ruth Ashcraft when she came out and accused him of buying her of her father for sex when she was 13. His twitter and Instagram accounts have been under constant abuse ever since.

Exosome Theory vs Virus Theory https://lbry.tv/@ODDTV:b/exosome-theory-vs-virus-theory:1

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > JohnL Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Critical thinking is about challenging others > > ideas... > > I'd argue that critical thinking should also be > about challenging your own ideas about others' > ideas, something the conspiracy theorists fail to > do... Is that not how conspiracy theories are born though? Challenging your own automatic acceptance (your own idea) of an official narrative (others ideas). Once upon a time a conspiracy theorist thought that the Earth was round. In other news - The Welsh First Minister has just announced that people will be able to exercise outside more than once a day in Wales and some garden centres set to reopen. I doubt we will see anything more if that in England.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Hope this makes sense TE44. Seasonal flu puts a > lot of pressure on the NHS every winter, despite > the flu jab reducing the spread and number of > people being infected. C19 is far more contagious > than seasonal flu and we have no jab for it. The > whole point of the lockdown is to prevent the > spread and thus avoid overwhelming the NHS and > social care services... Granted, productive is subjective but I did find this comment to be a productive contribution of yours. It may contradict what the CDC have stated, however I would be inclined to agree with your thought process. On that note, I would expect some restrictions to be lifted tomorrow given the current widespread availability of hospital beds up and down the country.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Funny how your critical thinking only works in one > direction... critical thinking noun the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgement. I am yet to form a judgement on the Covid-19 issue, neither have many people, hence my opening comment on this thread inviting discussion on the matter which also requested links to sources. My current opinion based on the amount of evidence currently available, is that the official narratives to do not accurately reflect the true severity of the situation. I would suggest that unless you are able to productively contribute, either observe and or research the content people are providing, or just ignore it.

diable rouge Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Yes malumbu, you do realise that now makes you a > critical thinker. The next step in your travels > through grifterdom is to start your own YouTube > channel so that you can explain this remarkable > scientific discovery to all the free thinkers out > there. Presentation is everything, make it look > like you're in your Mum and Dad's spare box room, > this will appeal to your target audience. During > filming don't forget to throw in a few colourful > bar charts, my neighbour's 6yo can help you out > with this if you're stuck. Finally the moneyshot > ending, make the plaintive plea that in order for > you to continue your intellectual crusade for > truthfulness you have a gofundme page. Rinse and > repeat... Gofundme page or taxes. Spare box room or the Houses of Parliament. Presentation is everything as you say.

The CDC (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention) have stated: Covid-19 hospitalisation rates are "similar to" those in >65 yo's during ?recent high severity influenza seasons? & for children (0-17) "much lower than flu hosp rates during recent influenza seasons? https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/pdf/covidview-05-01-2020.pdf

JohnL Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > This is the Plandemic ?If a conclusion supports > your existing beliefs, you'll rationalize anything > that supports it.? > > https://techcrunch.com/2020/05/07/plandemic-video- > judy-mikovits/ > https://www.forbes.com/sites/marshallshepherd/2020 > /05/07/why-people-cling-to-conspiracy-theories-lik > e-plandemic/#68eec4c05049 > > Believe what you want or google "plandemic" The Forbes article contains this: My 25+ years of doing science, testifying before Congress, and monitoring social media have also revealed the following factors in why people migrate to conspiracy theories: 1) Lack of or failure to apply critical thinking skills I personally would have thought that applying critical thinking enables people to question the official narrative, and uncover untruths. 9/11 is probably the most infamous conspiracy theory of our time. Yet how many people truly believe the version of events that were relayed to the general public? I've seen the Plandemic, but do not know enough about Dr Mikovits or what she claims to have an opinion on it yet. For those that haven't seen it here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=VFWHgF8AssQ&feature=emb_logo

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Robbie, Its becoming the norm to not allow people > with different points of views around this given > reality,to speak out, this is including people > working within NHS, when they do it is removed. > People who have knowledge within science. It is > not about differences of opinions anymore its > about > Only allowing the given reality. I agree and it restricts one of the biggest requirements in science - questioning. From what I understand, FB and YouTube are removing any content that contradicts the WHO narrative, which has changed from when this all broke out. This is very dangerous censorship and there have been many stories of doctors and others having their content removed. From their perspective of how serious or not this is, to stories of pressure to falsifying reasons of death due to the extra funding that hospitals receive per Covid death

> Snopes is the go to > > https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bill-gates-vacci > nations-depopulation/ > > You can't say reducing the world population growth > is killing children that don't exist. I agreed - Reducing population growth for me would be via negatively affecting either fertility and/or life expectancy

TE44 Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > https://community.oilprice.com/topic/13016-us-surg > eon-general-adams-dumps-bill-gates-who-cdc-%E2%80% > 98predictive-contagion%E2%80%99-model/ > > Bill gates contagion model is dumped. I think we all need to be extremely cautious of a man that once infamously stated vaccines will help reduce population growth during his TED Talk, considering how vocal he has been recently in pushing for a vaccine to cure this virus. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCniev95_Gg

malumbu Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Because without lockdown 80% of the population > could get it, and that would be several hundred > thousand dying. That includes 10s of 1000s > without underlying health problems or of older > age. Remember the pictures of Italy when they went > into meltdown. Do you have a source at all for that 80%? The provisional testing analysis shows that approx. 10% of those tested either currently have or have had it previously so that seems pretty high. The situation in Northern Italy was very much exacerbated by the lack of medical professionals and equipment. Doctors were placed into a position where they pretty much had to choose who survived. This is according to my Italian housemate who is a Neurologist at Kings, and has gone back home to help out over there.

KidKruger Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Does anybody know where the daily death toll is > being reported and whether that toll is actually > reported afresh each day ? > BBC state the alleged no invariably, but I'm > hoping for a better source. > Ta. I believe the official figures are from Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavirus-covid-19-information-for-the-public The Office of National Statistics has some insightful data: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/articles/coronaviruscovid19roundup/2020-03-26 90% of Covid-19 deaths are aged over 65, and 9 out of 10 deaths had underlying health issues. This naturally raises the question as to why the whole country and economy is on lockdown, rather than just the over 65's and those with health issues.

https://www.facebook.com/beth.cheriseee/media_set?set=a.10222005538865950&type=3

How accurate are the figures we are reading? Goats, fruit and other non-human samples are testing positive for Covid-19 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-tanzania/tanzania-suspends-laboratory-head-after-president-questions-coronavirus-tests-idUSKBN22G295?fbclid=IwAR3Zgm_G45-FCjWYS-p89lH0YmqYoncgCf2RLLe6x_xUAaH8XjJ_Pw9EFWw

Thank you Blah blah that was very informative, the sort of discussion my original post was intended to generate.

I found this article quite interesting. It mentions the type of work carried out at the Wuhan lab, as well as the CSIRO lab in Australia. https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/coronavirus/bombshell-dossier-lays-out-case-against-chinese-bat-virus-program/news-story/55add857058731c9c71c0e96ad17da60 Genuine question, and it is what I was originally referring to - Irrespective of belief or what the current general consensus may be, is it possible that something may have escaped from the lab in mutated form, be it whether the mutation occurred inside or outside the lab?

Blah Blah Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Robbie Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > It amuses me when I see pathetic keyboard > warriors > > that can't resist an insult or something > > derogatory in most of their comments. > > It amuses me when I see links to scientific > articles that the conspiracy theorist poster > doesn't understand. Still waiting for you to point > where that article suggests the splicing of two > viruses Robbie. Don't take too long now ;)

edcam Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Is this thread about the Illuminati? 🙄 It wasn't originally, no. Someone mentioned Qanon which then deviated the discussion from the topic at hand.