TJ

Louisiana, You make what is a local asset and useful tool an unpleasant place to visit. Please apply some self-regulation and chill out.

DaveR Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I like the Palmerston. I've never had a bad meal > there, always thought it was pretty good value, > and always had adequate service, although I > wouldn't say that's their strongest suit. I'm not > keen on the Herne - I like their aspirations but > imo they are not organised enough to deliver. I > also like Franklins, although again I wouldn't say > their service is great, and on occasions I've not > found many menu dishes that really appealed - > that's just my taste, I guess. > > However, what I really @#$%& hate is when someone > comes on here and slags of anybody who disagrees > with them, in a sneery and childish way, and > simultaneously tries to elevate their own > subjective judgment into received wisdom. Spot on - totally agree.

I am really completely overwhelmed again by the aggression and ire vented on this site. I am happy for someone who has done something awful to get a pasting on here (Jacqui Smith for one!), but too many people take their vague preferences and turn them into something a whole lot more poisonous. All to often these are directed at small businesses who really need support in these difficult times - not a verbal assault. I would like to suggest a 3 strikes and out rule. 3 complaints against a post / poster and get them off. Just to try and keep people interested in remaining balanced and open minded.

Can i suggest the originator has a read of her colleagues reviews and maybe considers she may be on her own here. http://www.thepalmerston.net/reviews/

louisiana Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Jeremy Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > *Bob* Wrote: > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > ----- > > > When we've been to the P'ston the bill was > > around > > > ?80 - ?100 for two. > > > > > > In terms of price, that puts it right up > there > > > with just about anywhere in London you'd care > > to > > > try out. And the food (quality, quantity) > > simply > > > didn't justify the price last time I was > there, > > so > > > yes, I'm put-off returning. At least for the > > > present. > > > > > > I'll make a few concessions for it being five > > > minutes walk, but not ?100-worth. > > > > "Around ?80-?100" is a pretty big margin! But I > > can see you mind spend around ?80 if you have > > desserts and coffee. Maybe ?100 if you'd had > > dessert wine, port or whatever. > > I seem to recall the bill was north of 80 with > only one dessert between two, no coffees (which I > never order and my partner doesn't drink), no wine > and 3.5 beers etc. > > So how long have you been working at The > Palmerston, Jeremy? > > > > > > I also disagree that the price is up there with > > just about "anywhere in London you'd care to > try > > out", ?80 is really not expensive for a decent > > meal these days. > > Indeed it isn't. when the food is up there too. > I don't mind spending ?150-200, if the food is up > to scratch. Bitch!

FoodStories Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > TJ - Do you think that four slices of barely cm > thick monkfish on crushed peas with sauce is worth > ?17? If you do then I really can't take you > seriously. Again, I was not complaining about the > quality or freshness of the ingredients - I agree > they were good. What I am saying is that the > portions are ridiculous and to swamp white > crabmeat in a pool of Thai dressing like that > shows a serious misunderstanding of the ingredient > by the chef in my opinion. I've got no problem > with the drinks prices either. > > It seems opinions are very mixed here anyway, > which is interesting. Actually, i don't think ?17 is that bad. I am quite happy to hit those prices for good cooking - which it is. You see, the difference is that this is a destination venue - not just a locals place. That is what the herne does. Go to anywhere serving that quality / size of food and you would pay the same. The customer who goes out to eat once in a blue moon (maybe like you) doesn't get it. Oh, and its full most of the time - which tells you its doing ok.

You really are quite odd people.

I want to start by mentioning I know the chef and a few of the staff there but that does not change my standpoint. I eat at the r fairly regularly and recently eschewed the normal west end haunts (Ivy, Gavroche, Wolseley etc) to bring some important overseas clients to ED to treat them to dinner. I would also like to point out that while I am no food critic, I take my food and wine seriously and believe that i have eaten in a wide variety of places around the world at every level. The Palmerston is a place you can rely on to have a superb meal without fail. The provenance of the ingredients is great - the chef was recently telling me the mushrooms along were ?32 per kilo in one dish. You cannot complain at any level about the quality and freshness of these ingredients. Next point is portions. The food at the Palmerston is quite rich and as such the portions need to be a little smaller. As a bit of a fatty myself, I am only too aware what rich foods do to the waist line. I agree that leaving a restaurant hungry is not expected, but a 2 courser there plus shared cheese left me stuffed to the gills. Fish does tend to be a lighter option on their menu. If you want a gut buster special - go for a curry. Lets keep the focus on quality not quantity. Wines - ok, these are expensive, but they are good. Beers - did you know that ?2 of each pint in most pubs goes back to the brewery? Who is ripping off who then?? Gripes. The bogs need sorting out and the windows really would be so much better if they opened as it gets too hot in the summer, and the PVC seats also need an overhall, however, as a local place to go - eat, get a bit wobbly and stagger home, it beats the westend hands down. Finally, it attracts a huge number of people to ED from neighboring areas and in no small way has helped the area increase in value and popularity.

I am still failing to understand how anyone can really be concerned about a place being smartened up? If by painting a building to make it look like someone cares, a customer feels alienated, surely that customer just needs a slap in the chops and be told to stop being a twat?

It says its water works - which it clearly is not as they are not digging a hole and are laying out what looks like a roadway...

What's THIS?

Can we all wear bio-hazard suits now? I have some with day-glo paint from my early rave days which are also happily bang on-trend right now.

I have just returned from the West End - and I can officially confirm the tit-bomb has exploded.

Guys - Take your little spat off this post and both of you show some decency.

Many thanks - It is indeed very under exposed considering the 200 million sufferers and I don't think most people realise its effects can be terminal.. Please dig deep.

Dear Forumites - Please excuse this abuse of local goodwill. On 26th April this year (next weekend!) my sister in law is running the London Marathon in aid of the Hepatitis C Trust. She is not a runner and therefore will need all the help and support as she tries to raise a total of ?5000 for the charity which offers help to those who suffer from this illness. This is a critical time for the charity as new treatments are in development and funds are needed to get them through the approval process and available to sufferers as soon as possible. Would you be able to sponsor her? If you are able to or if you would like to know more about the Hepatitis C Trust, please visit her donations page at www.justgiving.com/natalienicholson1 Admin - pls hold off lounging this for as long as possible - and thank you all for your support! TJ

Bellenden village? That has to be the biggest load of estate agent bog ever.

I see Franklins in Oval / Kennington has closed down. I was a sort of cafe farm shop version of the new shop on LL.

So if someone sells trout in a restaurant, is it the common brown trout (which is farmed) or a sea trout? And where does the rainbow trout live? And what was on hizars menu?

Oh, and i understand Hisar is up for sale. Went last weekend. Didn't rate it as highly as i used to.

I though Trout was a river fish anyway? jespermk Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > yes, went there myself with my girlfriend, had a > trout, although, not typically turkish, it was > like it had never been swimming in the sea, dryer > than the sahara and about as tasty as a mouthful > of its sand.... still, maybe next time, i should > have something more typically turkish...

Aren't you the same guy who didn't like Turkish food on the Forest Hill thread? What's your game mate? Are you really a local curry house owner or something? Jeremy Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Tas is pretty average IMO. It's inexpensive and > serves its purpose, but not somewhere I'd go out > of my way for.

I think you are somewhat lost in the detail and missing the larger picture. Is the forum as welcoming and civilised as it should be?

Its not that particular rider. Its the guy who deregulates the scooters - so there are multiple people visiting. Therefore, the person to deal with is the one doing the work. I will have a word with his parents. Xena: Worried prince Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Just as a question, has anyone actually mentioned > the problem to the rider, he/she may not know they > are causing a nuisance and may well not realise > that they are p@ssing off 90% of East Dulwich, or > they may have a blown exhaust that needs repairing > and they are stalling it until pay day. > > Whilst I am not normally tolerant, I would say > give them the benefit of the doubt before > purchasing piano wire as the red tape involved in > a headless rider is huge....:'(

Can anyone who heard this do two things: Report to the East Dulwich safer neighborhood team (Duncan Jackson) on 020 8721 2447 AND the Peckham Rye team (Neil Cook) 020 8721 2443. Second - send a noise complaint report to Southwark on: https://securesite.southwark.gov.uk/ShowForm.asp?fm_fid=480 or call 020 7525 5777. A little pressure should resolve this.