h1981

Yeah, back-to-back Fall all evening at The Ivy House tonight!

The Ivy House may be having a Mark E Smith/Fall night next week if an evening can be found. Not enough time to sort for this evening, but I have compiled a Fall playlist for them to play in the back (main) room tonight - will post again very soon to hopefully confirm it'll be on!

Many thanks for the supportive posts - it really is much appreciated!

The hours applied for regarding supply of alcohol are 11.00 to 11.00 (Monday to Thursday), 11 to midnight (Friday), 11 to 1am (Saturday) and 11 to 10.30 (Sunday). Each day apart from Sunday has an extra half hour beyond the "closing" time for "Late night refreshments", which is standard.

http://app.southwark.gov.uk/licensing/LicPremisesAppliedDetails.asp?systemkey=841241

That's the old one - not ours! Have to get to work now, but will check out what's going on asap!

Hi Cyclemonkey. One newsletter went out last week which you should have got, and another one is imminent. Please private message me your email address and I'll get to the bottom of why you did not receive the first newsletter - or drop us a line through the website - thanks!

FredCasa Wrote:

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> We are shareholders and did not receive an email

> about the licence application. As a community pub

> the Ivy House needs to be (and I'm sure wants to

> be) really sensitive to the concerns of the people

> in the neighbourhood, especially about noise late

> at night. Why don't the steering group meet up

> with the people who are most likely to be

> affected?

Hi FredCasa.

I'm an Ivy House steering group person. Thanks for investing in the pub. Please do drop us a line through the contact email address on the front page of the website - http://www.ivyhousenunhead.com/.

Thanks

Hugo

BeckhamPye Wrote:

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> Very interesting to hear from the steering group -

> thank you for your comments.

>

> FYI, I walked past the pub earlier today and there

> is no detail outside the pub about the license

> application. Aren't you legal entitled to have a

> notice up? Putting legal reasons to one side, it

> might be a good idea to put one up as it notifies

> the older generations who live nearby who might

> not use the internet/social media, etc...

>

It is there - on the doors.

The most recent soundproofing problems with the Ivy House were in 2010 when the then management did not apparently manage the issue of people being in the outside areas front and back very well late at night and on some occasions into the early hours. They had reinforced the soundproofing, but this effort was negated by not keeping an eye on other sound sources. The most recent licensees, as honeybee79 stated, had no complaints from local residents re noise. This was due in part to the recent soundproofing, but also to the excellent late hours management of outside drinking/smoking that Nick and his team put in place.

Incidentally the current soundproofing, recently removed to enable asbestos removal work at the back of the stage, is to be re-installed double-fold. Extra soundproofing options for the roof are also being explored.

The 1am Saturday license would not necessarily be invoked every Saturday, only when an event warrants it.

Jeremy Wrote:

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> Well said SJ and JB.

>

> I didn't mean to suggest that the location was a

> problem per se, just that it would prevent me

> personally from becoming a frequent visitor (only

> went there twice, to see bands).

Hi Jeremy. Sorry, the location comment wasn't aimed at you, but to others who claim location IS a problem per se! Thanks for your supportive comments.

The local residential population DO go there (when it was last open obviously) - that is why there was a huge outcry when the pub closed down. Granted in the past it had a reputation as somewhere many locals didn't go to - I spoke to one bloke who lived around the corner for 25 years and the only time he went inside the place was at Stuart Road's Silver Jubilee street party when he was 5. It rained and he went in the pub. The other memory he had was an armed siege in the 90s. But that has changed. Nearly 300 people, many in this apparently "sparsely populated" area have invested in the pub, because they believe in its resurrection as a centre of a vibrant local community (and a fabulous venue for those further afield). Some of those people remember the place from the 40s, 50s and 60s and are thrilled to see what is happening. In reference to the point about there being other community spaces in spitting distance, by way of an example of what's going on, a couple of long-standing residents have told me of their disappointment that they are no longer able to meet where they used to (am not sure which community space this is) and are looking forward to the prospect of reminiscence groups at the pub. And that will be one of many things going on during the day - mark my words! (please)

I promised myself not to fire off a response here and will probably regret it, but I never get the location thing. I never moan about the Gowlett being in the wrong place, yet will happily walk to there and plenty of other places in East Dulwich/Peckham (I live near the Ivy House you may have guessed!). To say the pub has problems with its geographical location is to ignore the many people that live around here. It also rather implies that the world stops at Peckham Rye Common.

And relax.

Huggers Wrote:

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> ivy house website not accepting 'submit'for share

> app.

Hi there. Seems to be working fine now - please PM me if there's further problems!

Hi Sue. Hugo here. We've been sending regular updates relating to this through the mailing list - we've got a couple of email addresses for you on that list - perhaps PM me with your current one, thanks!

djw Wrote:

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> Interest rates are a long way off rising for 1.

> And the basics are, don't take on a mortgage you

> cant afford if rates rise by minimum 2%.

>

> But lets stay on topic. Whats the deal with The

> Ivy House in Nunhead. Does anyone know if it is

> being replaced? If it is, this could really change

> the area for the better. Come on Capital Pubs! Do

> another land grab.

Have a look at http://www.facebook.com/groups/211251488989675/ for the latest on The Ivy House

My son is year 7 at Harris Boys East Dulwich. They are not allowed mobile phones as long as they are in school uniform, ie not just when at the school, but also travelling to and from the school. As a result, apparently, it is "known" that Harris Boys do not carry mobile phones and are subsequently not a target. Although I was a little edgy at first, my son being uncontactable on his school commute hasn't been an issue.

dustycornishman Wrote:

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> Does the Ivy House have an open mic night or a Jam

> night?

>

> I'm hearing different things about it and can't

> find any information anywhere!

I'm pretty sure there's nothing going on like that at the moment (and I do pop in there quite a bit!) - I'll alert Nick the bar manager re your query and hopefully he can supply more details

Cheers Jah. Reg and Sue had very fond memories of their time at The Newlands. A few other acts they mentioned...Gonzalez, Kokomo, Rory Gallagher, Bob Kerr's Whoopee Band, Ducks Deluxe and Ace. There was a queue down the street when the latter played there in 1974 because they'd had a hit single after the time they were booked. They had memories of nearly booking Dire Straits just before leaving the pub in 1976 - looking at the dates I reckon it's more likely they nearly booked the Knoplers' pre Straits band Cafe Racers. By the way, I did ask them about those Stones and Pink Floyd myths...obviously a few years before their time (I don't think anyone thought that Pink Floyd played in Nunhead during their Dark Side of the Moon tour!), but whilst they were there, they'd never heard anything about either of them playing...still, who can prove that Syd Barrett never popped down there at least once whilst at Camberwell Art College and strummed a few chords!

I'm not very good with this linking stuff, but here's a link (hopefully) to a recent article I penned for the South London Press. It concentrates on the pub's early/mid seventies music heritage...thought it might be of interest...here goes...

http://www.slp.co.uk/news.cfm?id=42559&headline=Iconic%20pub%20hit%20right%20note

Joe Strummer and Mick Jones ended up on stage together at the end of a Strummer and Mescaleros fire-fighters benefit show, performing some Clash songs, the month before Joe died. It went pretty well apparently and I remember reading something about them plotting to turn up at a gig together, "undercover" as a Clash tribute band...I reckon had Strummer lived The Clash would have played again - maybe it'd only have been a "worthy" one-off, but I think they'd have done something.

Jose - Lee Hazlewood

Thorn In My Side by The Eurythmics

First albums...I was listening to The Crazy World of Arthur Brown (album the same name) the other day for the first time in ages...forgotten how good it was. Third album has to be Love's Forever Changes

I'd like to throw a 28th into the mix - The Fall's Your Future Our Clutter. Surely the best 28th album ever released. (should this be under a separate "Best 28th album thread"?)

I'd like also like to add positive feedback about Harris Boys East Dulwich, but as a parent of one of the aforementioned primary school friends of Denmothersmith's son who does find the organisational aspects a considerable challenge! My son was notorious at his primary school for leaving things and losing things at school and hearing about a strict regime at Harris we feared that he might get into regular trouble for something he finds genuinely hard to do. He has however (mostly) risen to the challenge, albeit with the assistance of some teamwork at home in terms of preparing for the day...though that help is becoming less necessary! He also happens to be a serial delayer/disliker of homework, and hearing homework was done every night, we feared this also might be an issue, but again he is adapting and it is becoming a comfortable norm (though the homework has admittedly yet to reach an over-challenging stage). Additionally, the option does seem to be there to do some of it in school time (ie not the post-school homework club). This week he twice started homework UNPROMPTED on his return home - unheard of whilst at primary! The boys all have a planner/diary which has been a great asset (possibly this happens at a lot of secondary schools?). I've just asked him and one of his friends who's here now whether they like the school. Both gave an unhesitant "yes". Reasons they gave, in enthusiastic agreement, were the equipment, the facilities, the lessons being interesting and fun...my son said he's learnt loads, which for someone who finds being distracted as easy as falling off a log is a big deal!

Thirding the Sunday lunches here! Also I notice that there are posters up in the area advertising the return to The Ivy House of Easycome Acoustic Club on Wednesday evenings

Sue Wrote:

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> Good luck with the re-opening h1981, are you able

> to divulge anything at all about the changes you

> are making?

>

> I love the back room so hope that won't be

> changing!

Hi Sue. I am merely the messenger. I saw there was clearing out going on a couple of days ago so popped in and had a chat with the new guys. The back room is not changing and neither from what I could see is the general interior character of the place. They've already put in some good looking wooden pew type seats in the back bar area. They're the same crew who run The Joiners in Camberwell, which features live music regularly, and they'll be putting on plenty of music at The Ivy House too (how could you not?!), though because of noise issues nothing overly amplified apparently.

Anyway, they said they knew about The Nunhead Forum, so I mentioned this Forum too - hopefully they'll post some more details themselves some time soon.

Something of possible interest to those who remember the pub in its early/mid seventies "Dr Feelgood, Ian Dury, etc" days, when it was called The Newlands Tavern (and I think should be so again) - I had the pleasure of meeting the Fentimans recently who were the couple who ran the pub then. Great to hear their account of that time from the horse's mouth (horses' mouths?) and to learn how they made such a success of the place.