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Ha ha, you do surprise me... Seemingly surgeons at A&E aren't their biggest fans either. I would suggest we are trying to improve things - a bit like those surgeons......one of them said: "We should do something about it, I don't think we can let this carry on," Jaison says. Powerful words from those on the front line.

Ha ha @exdulwicher are you now trying to suggest that surgeons are now part of some anti-cycling lobby group....next our good friend @malumbu will be accusing them of being Reform supporters.... As I have been saying for a long time - medics are always the ones who ultimately start the debate when there is a problem and often it leads to change - it happened with e-scooters and now seems to be happening with e-bikes. This is pretty compelling isn't it and look a stat - or is that stat from the surgeons what-iffery as well: Frida is one of 150 such cases to come through this Royal London unit in the past six months. Surgeon Jaison Patel is seeing more and more cases like this. "It's a massive burden on our department and I'm sure it's the same across the whole of London," he tells us. "If we can reduce the number of patients coming in with these sorts of injuries it would be great for the patients obviously, but also takes massive pressure off us in the NHS."

@malumbu regardless of whether people ride Lime bikes or like the concept do you accept, based on the testimony of front line medical workers from A&E departments in the BBC article, that there may be an increasing trend of, potentially life changing, injuries caused by the weight of said electric bikes? A yes/no answer will suffice......

There have been clear patterns of increases in some types of crime in the area but the stats on that over a longer period of time ( both from a site that @Earl Aelfheah shared and also the numbers I gathered from the Police data site) were dismissed by the usual suspects. Clearly there can be no argument on the stats direct from the Met that are also mirroring those trends I previously noted and shared.

But theft from person is clearly not a shrinking problem is it - I think you could say that issue is growing exponentially....and that is what I have been saying - not sure I ever mentioned car crime did I? Hurrah your car won't be broken into but you're far more likely to be mugged or robbed maybe even at knifepoint...yeah that'll make everyone feel so much safer.......

Nonsense. The Met's own stats shows increasing problems with crimes like theft from person in the Dulwich Village area. Anyone who lives in the area is more than aware of it and clearly the Met's latest data shows the extent of the problem (well over 150% increase year on year for the last three months for theft from person) and demonstrates that we are not imagining it! Which I am sure those looking in from the outside would like to try to convince people is the case! I am laughing because we have seen this so many times before: "This is happening" "No it is not, where is the data?" "Here is the data (StreetScan)" "No that data is wrong" "Well what about this data from the police (Met Police)" "No that data is not showing that and any way those numbers are nothing compared to Detroit in the 80s"

What I have been saying for a long time that, within the Dulwich Village area and particularly around the LTNs there is a growing problem with certain types of crime, especially theft from person - that's the huge light blue chunk in the Met's graphs BTW. I think you tried to tell us it wasn't a growing problem. Clearly, according to the Met's own analysis, it is.

As we have been saying for a long time - in lieu of actual data (to satiate the "where is the data" to show this is a problem brigade) it is always casualty departments that see the impact of the problems first and change always starts from there. It will be interesting to see how the usual suspects try to spin out of this......as we have been saying for a long time there is clearly a problem. Interesting what one of the surgeons says: Nick explains that he is a cyclist himself, and it's something he encourages people to do for the benefit of their health. But, he has real concerns about e-bikes, and says: "What we've noticed with e-bikes is that the speed in which people are coming off is much higher and as a result, the injuries are much worse." He shows us X-rays of someone who has broken their collarbone. He explains that with e-bikes, the injuries they're seeing are much more severe, and as such, people are "struggling to get back to normality". Nick and Jaison both agree it's something they're seeing increasingly more of as time goes by, and they think the industry needs better regulation. "We should do something about it, I don't think we can let this carry on," Jaison says.

@Earl Aelfheah....still waiting....come on give us your best shot...just look at how Dulwich Village compares to neighbouring wards the second highest levels of crime after Sydenham - and the biggest number of theft from persons of any neighbouring ward - at least twice as many as any other ward. I am glad to see the Lib Dems are bringing crime to the fore in their recent election leaflet that dropped through our door - is it true that Southwark cut Community Wardens for Dulwich as the Lib Dems suggest?

I think you're, deliberately so, missing the point @Dogkennelhillbilly. Perhaps those so vexed about the supposed opaqueness of OneDulwich ought to start spending more time looking at the very, very cosy relationships between the council and the various interlinked active travel lobbying groups.... @Earl Aelfheah unsubstantiated fear of crime.....errrrr,the Met's latest crime numbers for Dulwich Village don't make happy reading do they....

When @DulvilleRes sent me looking for the "Choose a Good Councillor" article on the OneDulwich site I found something one there that I had not seen before. Namely a brilliant piece on the Winners and Losers of the scheme: https://www.onedulwich.uk/winners-and-losers And within that OneDulwich maps the links between the various active travel lobby groups and the council. It is fascinating. Let's be honest, if all you care about is the person behind OneDulwich but aren't interested in the lobby groups helping pull the council's strings then your attention is probably misplaced.....look @DulvilleRes your beloved Dulwich Society Travel and Environmental Sub-Committee even gets an honourable mention! @Dogkennelhillbilly in the context of my above post I think you might be right - there are so many of these local active travel lobby groups that pump out misinformation yet seem to have strong links to the council.

I am absolutely 100% in favour of accountability. When you take a step back, take the blinkers off and actually take a look at what they were posting in relation to "Choose a good councillor" someone with a completely impartial eye would say that they approached each candidate and asked them for their views on the LTNs and posted their responses. I don't think you can accuse them of bias as they approached and printed the responses of each one (a couple did not respond in the first instance) - someone with a political agenda for one party doesn't tend to do that. Now, of course, two parties came out and said they would remove the LTNs in Dulwich and that was the Tories and the Lib Dems and it can come as no surprise that a group campaigning for the removal of the LTNS were pleased when two parties said that is what they would do. Honestly @DulvilleRes take the (red) rose tinted glasses off for a second. P.S. When you alerted me to the Choose a Good Councillor I went to check it on the OneDulwich website and stumbled upon a really interesting analysis piece that they did that I will post in the OneDulwich section that I had not seen before - so thank you for that! 100% yes that is still my position. You might find it implausible but for you the challenge is that my assertion is 100% true. And you are 100% wrong in your assertion that I am somehow involved in OneDulwich or know the people who are. Yes, a number of us post the OneDulwich Campaign Updates. How do we get them? Well, as one of the 2,100 people who signed up to get the campaign updates when we registered to be one of the 2,100 people they get sent to me every time they get sent out. Why should I not be proud that the detective work I am doing, fighting the nonsense narratives a lot of people on here put out, is picked up by a local campaign group? I am pretty sure that someone from OneDulwich probably frequents this forum - sees what we are all arguing about and uses the bits they find useful for their own means - and bravo to them - a community forum helping a community campaign! #powertothepeople No I may not be a lawyer but your relentless tactic of trying to insinuate I am somehow something to do with OneDulwich is starting to stick amongst some of your peers (and they are starting to repeat it) and that, my good friend, is potentially libellous. I have told you 1000 times - I am nothing to do with OneDulwich nor have any affiliation of any sort to any politicial party and you are repeatedly trying to spread a falsehood about me in many of your posts. I am all for good natured banter but you are repeatedly stepping over a line in a desperate attempt to attack me. The accusation is not true so please stop it.

Does anyone remember that time not so long ago that the trend was for removing as much street furniture as possible to make our streets safer....the polar opposite now seems to be in play....?

Let's be very clear some of her friends are cleary trying to say she lost her job due to a media conspiracy. This is nonsense. She lost her job because she broke the ministerial code of conduct - that has nothing to do with the media. Was she under the spotlight because she was outspoken and happy to aggressivley attack any indiscretion of her opponents? Absolutely. But what's that saying: those who shout loudest often have the most to hide...never has that seemed more apt? Given that scrutiny she would have been wise to have been whiter than white but she wasn't and she has paid the price.

But at the same time those she sought for advice told her, very clearly, she needed to seek specialist advice which she did not do and carried on regardless. So I think the jury is out on whether this was a legitimate mistake or not.

Her legacy will be the Deputy leader/Housing Secretary who was the Labour party's sleaze crime fighter who broke the ministerial code for not paying enough stamp duty on one of her houses. As Housing Secretary she probably should have known better. I wonder if she will defect to Corbyn where she will no doubt be welcomed with open arms and the words: "You did nothing wrong, it was all a media conspiracy comrade......"

Which is exactly why Rayner had to go - don't be the sleaze attack dog and then not keep your own house in order - the really shocking fact is she didn't go the moment this came to light because she knew what advice, and the advice to seek proper tax expertise that was given to her in writing by the very people she was trying to throw under the bus - she clearly thought she might be able to spin her way out of it. When you look at the facts, the advice she was given and when and her behaviour in the last few days it has been scandalous and just shows the contempt for the public intelligence some politicians have. Interesting to see a very unscientific vox pop on BBC News last night but a lot of her own constituents seem to want rid of her as well and to be honest if you have to lose your cabinet role for this breach of the rules then you should probably lose your seat too. That is the hypocrisy here and why a lot of people don't like politicians because they're all the same.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Labour ran on a manifesto of "we aren't like them" and "we are different" and"you can trust us/we will restore faith in politics". They are doing nothing to convince anyone that any of those promises are being met - they are letting everyone down. u-turning on everything and are fast-tracking the doomsday scenario of a Reform government. Even the runway on the "it's all the Tories fault" is running out. I dislike politicians because they cannot be trusted and Rayner just highlighted that with ribbons on. She should have been so careful after the focus on the electoral roll issues she had with the house in Ashton-under-Lyne and then under a year later this comes up. Clearly the advice she took included a recommendation to take proper advice that she failed to do - that's just daft and the most galling thing is that she didn't just resign when this came up - she tried to spin out of it but must have known she was toast. Trust is fast being eroded. I desperately want Labour and Starmer to fix this because the alternative it too scary to think about but the way things are going they are fast-tracking Farage into No.10. Labour are letting us all down.

I think the problem is Labour are reminding everyone of the awful Tory behaviour by behaving in exactly the same way - they promised they would be different but have been anything but and yes all this is doing is playing into the hands of Farage. Rayner has created a massive mess for Starmer and the party and I think his reshuffle is not necessarily for the benefit of the country but his political longevity - the real infighting within Labour is about to start now Rayner has gone. For everyone's sake (whether you support them or not) Labour have got to get a grip - it's been one disaster after another and I cannot help but think that things are going to get really difficult for them around the budget as there is going to be a lot of very disgruntled "working people" out there. Farage is just sitting there on the sidelines watching Labour fall apart and rubbing his hands with glee...very, very scary.

Ha ha.. only in your world does that not validate exactly what I was saying. Maybe share with us how you are interpreting those numbers then....I cant wait to read what hilarious spin you try to put on this....

They were unconscious...good grief....you're relentless. No it's not...it's a sick, childish attempt to make a joke about someone else's misfortune. It's beyond pathetic and it projects a very negative image but if it works for them and they think it makes a pint then great...for the more rational in the real world it may be seen differently!

No @Earl Aelfheah what I have a problem with is when people try to make a vested-interest joke like the OP did at the expense of someone who could well have been harmed in an accident - it's childish, unnecessary and paints the posters in a very poor light. Dulwich Roads did it too - it's pathetic: Again, you seem to be Dulwich Road'ing it by embellishing it massively - who said anything about 20mph - I said under 20mph. ALso I am not sure if anyone has ever been charged with dangerous driving when they were unconscious due to a medical emergency - the police were far more concerned with the well-being of the driver. Embellishing again. How have I minimised it? These tactics are laughable.

Some very interesting data from the Met following the recent Dulwich Village ward meeting. Just look at the massive increase in theft from person and how that compares to neighbouring wards.

Does anyone know what actually happened? I suspect not so all of this back and forth is nothing more than idle (maybe hopeful?) speculation. Only the person driving knows what happened - the rest is just noise. I remember when Dulwich Roads went on one of their 20mph/how does this happen/dangerous drivers everywhere tirades around a car accident. What actually happened? The driver had a medical emergency, pulled over as they were felling unwell and then the medical emergency took hold they drove into a wall at under 20 mph. Dangerous - yes (thankfully no-one was injured). Dangerous driving - no.

@Earl Aelfheah I know you'rea big fan of data and if you look at the first DV consultation and compare it to the most recent one the level was opposition was actually grown. So yes, I am very serious. Stimulated by 5 years of lies, manipulation and wasting tax-payers money. That's what people are angry about. I am happy that, even you, can finally acknowledge this - are you happy our elected representatives behaved that way? Do you now trust them now in light of this? Perhaps now you can see why so many are still aggrieved by the way this all came about and happened - that the views of local residents were ignored in favour of active travel lobbyists and groups.