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No, plenty on here (some of whom seem to have a Bat phone to council HQ on many items) claimed to have seen or know where the original consultation document is yet no-one has yet shared it...... BTW you seem to be ignoring the council caused congestion issue with the right-hand turn. Do you think a more pragmatic approach than stoically sticking to the need to have wands to protect the bike lane might have created less pollution and cost a lot less tax-payers money than the huge expense they have now gone to to "fix" the problem they caused? Those wands went in after covid and since then that junction has been a nightmare with huge congestion and pollution in front of the Hamlets school - surely even the most ardent council fan can see that the council created this problem.

I am not. I was saying that councils seem happy to create traffic nightmares by allowing multiple works to take place at the same time as part of the "nudge" tactics to get people out of cars, that deliberately stopping free-flowing traffic and making journeys a nightmare is part of their plans to get people out of cars. Not one of the works on the A205, East Dulwich Grove or around Melbourne Grove are essential works yet all three are allowed to take place (ahem, at the end of the council budget year) without any consideration to the impact it would have on traffic across the area. Seems short-sighted at best, deliberately negligent at worst. The impact is not just cars as buses have been hampered by the works on the A205 and local schools are concerned about the impact it may have on pupils during the forthcoming exam season.

Seemingly Labour are going to try to address dangerous cycling.....it will be interesting to watch the reaction of those who said this was all political and anti-cyclist when the Tories suggested it.... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0w8g18x9no

But that's what the original consultation document said....but, funnily enough, no-one can find the original consultation document now. You know what caused the insufficient space at the DV junction don't you that the council refers to? And you know the council have been wrestling with the problem they caused for the last 4 or 5 years. Studies of the area and the current layout of the junction, show that there is insufficient space and time for northbound vehicles turning right at this junction, from Dulwich Village. This causes a ‘bottleneck’ effect and major traffic queues have been experienced, which is a cause of delays to bus journeys throughout the Dulwich Village area. You know what caused all of this - those four or five cycle wands they put in to protect the cycle lane at the DV junction. All of this investment, and the money they spent on the right lane filter, could all have been resolved with a far-more pragmatic solution that didn't need to cost the earth but the council chose to keep spending tax payers money doubling down on a problem they caused....

There seems to be zero interest in trying to maintain free-flowing traffic anywhere in the area right now. The A205 side of Dulwich was diabolical today - it's almost as if the council and other planning authorities are happy to cause chaos - one of their famous "nudge" techniques so many on the pro-cycle lobby love to tout.

Still not the original consultation document - which is what referred to having to remove the pedestrian refuges to accommodate the advanced cycle stops. Interesting though that in the document you shared it did call out this (and we all know which council intervention was the cause for that don't we): Studies of the area and the current layout of the junction, show that there is insufficient space and time for northbound vehicles turning right at this junction, from Dulwich Village. This causes a ‘bottleneck’ effect and major traffic queues have been experienced, which is a cause of delays to bus journeys throughout the Dulwich Village area.

I do hope the pedestrian green light phasing of the temporary lights at the DV/Red Post Hill junction is not indicative of the phasing to be used when the new lights are added. It takes an age for the pedestrian green light to go on and I have already seen people rushing across the junction but now have no refuge halfway across due to the resdesign to accommodate the advanced cycle box.

I do wonder if there is a correlation between the bad-temperedness of posters and how many holidays they take. It seems those who go quietest during school hols are the angriest posters on here....so perhaps jetting off on holidays does nothing for their stress levels whilst those of us who get to enjoy a quiet Dulwich find new levels of calm! 😉 Right, I am off to do some yogic flying around Dulwich Park before the angry masses return - anyone care to join me! 😉

And Easter hols and October half-term....probably difficult to post when you're in a different time zone half a world away - bit of a giveaway! 😉 I just love how quiet Dulwich Park and Lordship Lane are, especially the first week of the private school holidays.

And don't the Veolia collection teams wear uniforms with Southwark Council logo on them...this might explain why the councillors were so keen to point out the lorry wasn't operated by the council because if you saw a load of people clambering out of the cab of a lorry one that just rolled wearing clothing emblazoned with the council logo you might think it was being operated by the council. The Helen Hayes reference is weird as well it was almost as if the councillor post was: this is awful, nothing to do with us, speak to Helen.

..during the Easter holidays when it all goes a bit 28 Days Later as the second home owners, skiers and Easter sun worshippers depart on their Easter jaunts. Blissfully quiet.

Local accident investigators Dulwich Roads are claiming it was a Veolia bin lorry... https://x.com/DulwichRoads/status/1910711493273788469?t=TcPz_3Wvvv5gAk6PQg1rBA&s=19

Good grief that could have been awful and lets hope no-one in the vehicle was injured either. Interesting use of "not operated by the council" in the councillor post. The council outsources collection doesn't it so doesn't actually operate any bin lorries any more?

To be fair I think some are critical in the cases where the removal of "street clutter" a.k.a "pedestrian refuges" has been stated as part of the council's plan to facilitate cycle infrastructure. BTW did the mooted street market on Melbourne Grove ever materialise?

Yeah but I suppose the issue is that Brexit/Truss moment destabilised our economy and Trump's Truss moment is destabilising every economy globally and rocking the very foundation of global trading. Our stupid moments were just our stupid moments - Trump's stupid moment is everyone's stupid moment. The fact that people have been getting out of gold as well as stocks speaks volumes - gold is normally the safe-haven investors head for but lots are just cashing out completely.