Jeremy As someone who is fairly new to these Internet Forums, I?ve learned a bit over the last 24 hours. ? People do not read each other?s postings properly (I count myself as guilty here). We just skim read them and make up our minds about what that person is saying. We are influenced by what everybody else is saying on the forum about a particular posting and comment on that other posting without having actually read it properly. (I realise that most people on this forum wouldn't condone smashing any car up, the point I was trying to make was that we should not go around calling people we have never met ?cocks? and ?flash gits? ? and he really isn?t by the way) ? I think that some people make postings just to wind each other up (Fair dos, I?m doing it in the office at the moment with some Aussies over the Rugby ? and will probably live to regret it!) ? People feel a little braver behind a keyboard ? I assume most people would never dream of using words like ?cock? and ?flash git? to total strangers in a pub. Similarly, I myself feel quite at liberty to doubt the parentage of other drivers whilst I am behind the wheel of my unassuming little motor. ? These forums allow us to dehumanise situations and we forget that the object of the discussion is a human being. Maybe it?s someone who left school after O Levels, worked hard for years building up a local business employing local people, and now feels able to enjoy the fruits of his labour in whatever way he feels without actually harming anybody. Maybe it?s not. So, Jeremy, the forum reflects life. We don?t listen to each other, we wind each other up, we feel brave when we don?t have to face people and we forget that guy opposite us on the train in Dulwich wearing a Man Utd shirt is also a human being. My word it?s 10.30 and I need to get on with some work Jon :)-D