thebestnameshavegone

I don't remember being consulted about all the people being able to store 2 tons of their private property for free at the sides of the roads, but here we are. Has anyone ever asked or leafletted properly and followed that up? No.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I am shocked at how bad the traffic is on Lordship > Lane right now - it's scary how bad things have > got so quickly following the implementation of the > closures - it's obvious the EDG/LL junction and > Goose Green roundabout cannot handle the numbers > of extra cars being forced through them. > > The problem is the council doesn't care about > Lordship Lane, in fact I think a lot of them > actually despise it. Presumably you were driving through on another essential journey with your kids, and definitely not contributing to the traffic volume

heartblock Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > I passed the planters in ?Dulwich Square? on my > walk from a very busy EDG to the park. They were > as dry as a bone and most of the plants were dead > or dying. If EDG is made into a lovely traffic > free road, I will be happy to water our planters. Don't forget that a grown man / woman from One Dulwich spent some of their free time tearfully throwing the plants in those planters into the road 5 or 6 times since they got put in because they were upset about their journey taking an extra 10 minutes. I'm not surprised they look worse for wear

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > It's starting....the pressure is mounting....TV > news coverage tonight as well. Votes will be at > stake now.... Oh no, not the TV news! You already posted this in the other thread by the way.

You can still drive round, if there's something essential for you in Melbourne Grove? There is no 'nationwide campaign' - a newspaper, worried about falling ad revenue, has to present any story as something incendiary, or a 'fury' to get clicks. The amount of vehicles on the roads has doubled in the last 30 years, which isn't sustainable - so if you're upset about the volume of traffic now, unless more drastic measures are taken pretty soon it will get far, far worse.

Rockets Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > I was on EDG at about 5pm today, there wasn't > any > > congestion at all. Is this kind of anecdata > > useful? > > > > "the petition has nearly a thousand signatures > > which is about 8% of the total population of > East > > Dulwich" > > > > Yeah, but change.org petitions of any > persuasion > > are a load of old tut. Those signatories aren't > > all East Dulwich residents (or even necessarily > > all real). > > > Let's be honest, Change.org petitions are a lot > more transparent than the consultation surveys the > council conducts! ;-) > > The thing that the pro-closure lobby doesn't seem > to like right now is that there is a lot of > dissent against the closures amongst a large > swathe of the community and they seek to > de-position and belittle to try and maintain the > impression that everything is great and it is a > minority of petrol-heads making a lot of noise. > For the pro group they aren't that happy that the > playing field is being levelled after having the > council echo-chamber to themselves for so long. The road isn't closed. None of the roads are closed. You can still drive your brum brum where you like. It might take longer. But if the journey is indeed 'essential', that shouldn't be too much of an issue.

We need to have fewer car trips in London. It?s really simple. You?re either pro low traffic stuff. Or you?re pro more car congestion.

Spartacus Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > The good thing about this change of heart from > Shapps is that councils will now need to consult > on changes rather than dictate to their voters > > It may still result in the same changes occurring > but at least people will feel that they've had > their input to the process. Do you remember when you voted for your local councillors? That was when you had 'input to this process'.

slarti b Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > @bestnamesetc > Which roads do your childern use to get to school, > The ones the councillors are diverting traffic > onto? My kids walk to school. Anyone driving their kids to school shouldn't be allowed to live in London.

I think it should be compulsory to drive children to school, anyone makes my children breathe fumes I swear I'll do time

andrewc Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Are there any studies that support the idea that > more roads reduce traffic? None. More roads equal more traffic. When one is accustomed to privilege, equity feels like oppression.

It's quite easy to replace them with concrete blocks as they've done on Rye Lane. It's a bit futile, tearfully vandalising a planter because you want to drive your brum-brum wherever you please first mate Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Not in any way advocating or condoning this sort > of action but would not be surprised if more of > this occurs. When you read about break-ins and > theft carried out in broad daylight with no police > action, moving planters will probably be pretty > low on the list. > > Abe_froeman Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > In another nearby borough I discovered today > the > > residents themselves have removed one of the > new > > planters blocking their road because they were > so > > fed of up all the new congestion caused by cars > > trying to find alternative routes and endlessly > u > > turning. > > > > The implementation and outcome of these schemes > > have been utterly woeful.

11 posts, all about road closures. How much do they pay you lot? I'd ask for a pay rise ------------------------------------------------------- > thebestnameshavegone Wrote: > -------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > Bingo > > Damn, you're so edgy and original. > > > I have reviewed the ED CPZ consultation report. > > > 69% residents were against and 91% businesses > were > > against. Yet this is the quote I received from > the > > project PM > > > > This decision was made by the cabinet member and > > > ward councillors and is widely supported by > > residents. > > And they wonder why the turnout for council > elections hovers around the 30% mark in most > wards.

Bingo

intexasatthe moment Wrote: ------------------------------------------------------- > Dear lord ,could these people not find better > things to do with their time and energy .You know > ,something that might contribute to the good of > the less privileged . Whining that you can't drive your expensive car where you like at all times is the very definition of privilege.