Bizzy, we're not necessarily against A church, we're more against 5-7 churches within the crystal palace area (do we REALLY need another one? really?). Just how much more good can the next church do in comparison with the previous five?. Yes, churches can have positive effects within the community, but it would also be nice to see something that would help inject a bit of life by bringing people from social groups OTHER than from the religious spectrum. I personally feel like there's nothing for me in crystal palace, apart from the Blockbusters which I occasionally rent films from. The christian communtiy has firmly established it's place within Crystal Palace... How about something for the rest of us? I'm sure there are also many christians who love film and would actually prefer a cinema, as they already have their pick of which church community to be involved in, or worship within. As a film student (BA w/hons at Brunel) I can not understate the importance of having a creative outlet, in particular that of a picturehouse-style independant cinema, which not only charges less than big-business such as Odeon, but are also partial to screening films made by students (my documentary Sharia Law was sreened at the ritzy in Brixton). Picturehouses are not, as Keef so bluntly (a little bit ignorantly i might add) put it, "posh cinemas". In fact they are the opposite, charging less for tickets and showing a wider artistic range in film choice, not only selling out to the big titles. In turn, this ensures that whilst we do get some form of entertainment within crystal palace, the area does not fall prey to the captialisation and commercialisation of such cinema chains as Odeon and Vue. We are literally getting the best of both worlds. This would also ensure that the crystal palace community would be doing its bit in helping the economy by increasing the amount of money spent in the area. Thanks, Shane.